PT Traffic

Is it just me

[stcrim]

The positions of our paid pages have remained stable but the traffic has been dropping. I would say the traffic is near half what it was to start with. Anybody else? We are in a competitive Kw catagory and I know MSN delivers different results on refresh.

Could PT be over-selling and now INK is trying to fit them all in by rotating everything?

Any thoughts?

[tigger]

steve.

The traffic I've been getting from ink and friends has certainly not been worth writing home about, initially the traffic was coming in but this I feel was due to the results being shown on freeserve now thats gone so has the traffic from ink :(, as all my clients are uk and lets face it ink isn't exactly that strong over here, completely unlike my paid bids with goto.co.uk.

Agian with goto the traffic is "strong" but as in the ink deal this I feel due to the rankings being shown on freeserve and certainly for me one of the main reasons for paying lets hope goto don't upset freeserve mind you at least we have the advantage in turning the tap off and not costing us anymore.

I personally feel that the PT deal is not of much use to us in the uk, maybe a different story in the USA

[msgraph]

Seems that way. I've tried everything to get good results from this paid submission deal but not having much luck. The rotating results in Hotbot and MSN are not helping much either. I am getting decent rankings under the keywords I targeted but then my site only shows up 1/2 the time, if at all that much.

Since the majority of popular keywords are targeted by SEO's I think you are right. We will start seeing an over-saturation of paid submissions that will conflict with older results. I hear rumors that Inktomi will do away with free submission, or at least give it an extremely low priority. But even if they do that they will still have to deal with their existing database.

Maybe some sort of click-thru tracking method will be worked in. Then they will rotate the results and the better of the two will be given a higher ranking.

[Brett_Tabke]

Well, I never saw any traffic increase after submission - so I guess that is a no Steve - cuz it can't go no lower ;)

[makemetop]

Inktomi does seem to work well on some sites. I have had the very embarrassing situation for about 6 months on Inktomi where a number of reasonably famous brand names were buried in the listings under 100s of links from their resellers etc. to the main site. Few people type in anything apart from a permutation of the brand name such as 'brand name cookers' etc. Now with the paid spidering the sites are back up at the top, where they were before June (even on Freeserve) and my credibility is restored (somewhat).

However, for competitive phrases, you are right. The main people who are using this service will be SEO savvy and we are all tweaking daily to get the top few positions on the same words. Unless some method of revolving the results on these popular terms occurs people are going to get pretty dissillusioned quite quickly.

[jlara]

I think you should check your positions. After submitting quite a few domains to the Positiontech program, we have had great success. However I noticed an unusual Inktomi crawl last week that was hitting the root URLs, not the ones I am paying to be spidered.

My positions were all there over the weekend. When I am spot checking them today most of them are gone.

I am hoping this is a temporary Inktomi Database glitch.

[stcrim]

Just to add to the above - the pages we have in the older database are doing great (not paid for) Using the same Algo and having the same and simular rankings in the same positions, my paid pages are not delivering much traffic. I have to guess they are doing something to share or divide the traffic by more than 50%.

That brings up the point of - are we really getting what we paid for or can they split the pie so many ways that no one gets much and true SEO is of little use since you only get a fraction of the traffic you should be getting for your efforts??????

[stcrim]

jlara,

Find a couple of those pages and then refresh them in MSN, you may be surprised at the results. Please report back and let us know...

[jlara]

They are back this morning, which is fine with me. I would be very satisfied if because of the 48 refreshes we only lost positions for a few days a month.