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So credit card in hand I've been to psition tech's site and completed the initial form, next section where it asks for additional domaines is confusing me.
Under the heading "Do Not Submit" there are 3 warnings first one I'm ok with (do not submit without little or no content) it's the other two which are throwing me out.
Number 2 - do not submit pages which redirect - I have in the past always used doorways and in the good old days when ink was a helpful SE had a good result using them and redirecting using javascript to the main site. does anyone know if a meta refresh will be treated in the same way ?.
Number 3 - do not submit pages which exceed 150 characters - does this mean 150 on the visible page or the total for the entire html source, if so, if you follow the guidelines laid down by WPG's critic it would be very hard if not impossible to produce a doorway fitting all these criteria which would score well under this new system.
Has anyone yet submitted a doorway ?
cheers, from a drying out uk SEO
It's still a redirect.
>Number 3 - do not submit pages which exceed 150 characters
I think they may mean the URL.
Thanks.
I'll have work on making my doorways look a little more pretty.
As for number 3 I'll blame that on a heavy weekend and not engaging brain ;)
If anyone's interested to hear how I get on let me know.
No matter what I feel about this Inktomi change, it is important and we all need to come to terms with it.
Steve
so far getting a good responce/service from Position Tech submitted the pages and recived e-mail notification confirming they are looking at the URL.
One nice touch within their subscribers page is it offers under list/edit category a rating on the page for word count being poor, medium & good, fortunately all three of my pages came in good :) and it also gives information on when page is indexed by ink.
I also sent them an e-mail shortly afterwards,just asking for something to confirmed and received an e-mail back within 30 mins. Not a bad service!
It's a shame my web hosts can't offer me access to my logs, as they're having problems, perhaps their water logged ;) (sorry just had to get that joke in)
I submitted on Nov. 2, thru PositionTech and sofar I am elated.
Like Tigger, I sent them an email (and phone call later) and received exceptional service. Quite a difference from trying to work direct with INK.
My pages showed up on Nov. 5 and sofar positions are as good or better than they were earlier this year before the mass changes.
I consider their fee quite resonable, especialy if it eliminates the many hour spent each month resubmitting to keep a page in the DB.
Gil
how many of ink's partners are showing your site ? I have one client that's really keen to get into canada/anzwers
I'm looking forward to seeing what type of ranking's my doorways get hopefully if it's anything like earlier on this year I should get some good results.
Most of the Ink portals that I have checked show at least two of the three pages I submitted thru PositionTech and several show all three including MSN. Positions are as good or better than previously when we were all able to submit thru Canada or Anzwers with good results.
I found the folks at PositionTech very willing and quick to help when I had an initial problem and sofar the results have been as promised.
At least two of the three sites I submitted are in Canada and Anzwers. Submitted 11-2-00 late in the evening. Results started showing up yesterday AM.
I am quite pleased with the results sofar. I guess we will have to accept the fact that there are few free lunches on the WWW these days and probably alot fewer in days to come. Don't like it much, but I can accept the fact that everyone in the chain has to make a buck somehow.
Gil
Is it possible that they only have ONE person designated to handle the financial doings of this huge undertaking? When I called to get some information they told me that he was out to lunch and NO ONE else could help me. I am not putting one more dime into this until I get some action. Actually I probably won't anyway as I do not like the way this is being handled. I would think that there would be a much bigger operation handling this program or at least one that can get the job done! I hate being this negative and I am still hoping that this will pan out but I'm thinking it's not going to happen. This was a test by us to see if paying Ink would be worth it... need I say more?
I have similar concerns you do get the impression that this is all run on someone's laptop, although I have parted with some cash until I see rankings my $40 is all they will get.
My experence so far has been very good and I can't complain, but as I live in the uk I think a phone call is out of the question.
If I do need to complain anyone across the water fancy picking up the gauntlet ;)
Just checked with all the SE's and all have picked up, so far, with one doorway ranking at #2. AOL nothing, looksmart has picked up on another doorway and has that at #3
So hopefully if the rest of the doorways show today and if they come in with the same ranking and stay around for longer than 5 minutes I would say that's $40 well spent.
What a nice way to start the day, not used to this ;)
Are only the pages you paid for doing well??? Or, has there been a ripple effect???
Steve
I only submitted 3 and so far most are ranking well (in top 5) using WPG page critic, I'm now just going to hold back and see what happens over the next few months, as lets face it we've all over the past had and lost rankings with our friend Inktomi.
I know in theory so long as I keep on top of any changes in algos I should keep the rankings, I just want to make sure before I cotact my clients and tell them to get their credit cards out.
Looksmart is the only one not showing anything, any thoughts ?
I tried a test: for one site I submitted the index page only, but it was linked to all the doorway pages.
The other site I submitted the index page as well as 8 doorway pages.
Both sites were indexed within a day and a half, but only the paid doorways showed up. I figured as much, otherwise it would have been way to easy!
It makes you wonder if the other portals for submitting to inktomi will become redundant.
did you get good rankings on the doorways ? and has anything showed up on looksmart ?
Jill
Has anyone noticed link popularity being more of an influence lately?
So here's the problem as I see it ... if you go for competitive keywords you will be buried by "directory pages", even if you're in the top 5 on the Inktomi "web pages". If you go for non-competitive keywords, you won't be buried below the "directory pages" but you'll not get enough traffic to justify paying much.
Anyone else seeing a similar situation?
