hotbot listing

[knoxy]

Hi guys
Following advice I was given on this forum I tried to find out wether my doorways were listed in hotbot. I typed in www.mydomain.com and was given only 1 match for one of my doorways. I've submitted over 30 doorways to hotbot so could someone tell me if this is usual.
Thanks in advance guys.

[Brett_Tabke]

Not at all. Inktomi/hotbot are so unstable right now, be thankful the 1 page stayed in. Keep submitting a few pages every single day. Get a slow trickle going.

[stcrim]

ditto to Brett's reply and - if you don't mind, if any of the pages you are currently submitting find their way to the top 10 or 20, please let us know. It's looking like when a page is first indexed by INK it is put through a different algo to keep it ranking poorly until is passes all the INK tests. Then it may be passed to the other db where INK's true algo applies.

This is just my guess - don't take it to the bank

[knoxy]

brett, stcrim
thanks guys and I will let you know if I get a listing (fingers crossed)

[Kamikaze]

knoxy- Also, try going here to check your domain if you haven't yet:

http://hotbot.lycos.com/help/checkurl.asp [hotbot.lycos.com]

Just wasn't sure if you used this or went straight up to the search query.

[knoxy]

kamikaze

Thanks for the advice, I've just done as you said and all 40 pages are indexed in hotbot,(phew).I will post it on this forum asa they are listed. (well we have to live in hope).

[Rockintom]

I just spent the last 1/2 hour or so at Hotbot checking out keywords in a category that I'm trying to promote for a client, and I gotta tell ya, the results are confusing.

There was talk awhile ago when all this Inktomi nonsense started about D-Day being June 27th (my birthday, co-incidently, but I certainly didn't make a wish for this! ;) ).

Well today under "wedding accessories" there are plenty of pages listed in the top 30 (I discounted the top 10 Direct Hit results) with dates in early August, 2000.

I don't know what to make of this, since there appear to be no common demominator between these top site. (other that the fact that thet're not mine!!)

This may be off topic a tad, but hey, it's all part of the Inktomi stew.

Any thoughts out there?

[makemetop]

It appears that sites that were in the 'pre-June 27' permanent database are getting respidered and ranked reasonably - hence the dates in August. It is sites which were not in that DB whose results seem to be toasted on everything.

But like everything with Inktomi now - I could be wrong!

[Rockintom]

makemetop
I think you may be on target. When I drilled down a little further, the same sites had pages that were listed well before D-Day. A few from one site actually had dates of 1/1/1970. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Al Gore had invented the internet yet in 1970. :)

[redzone]

The date of 1/1/1970, is a default date. In the early MS-DOS days, like the 80's, file dates in the DOS file manager were restricted to dates after 1/1/1970. Makes sense since the first PC wasn't around until 1981, how could you have a file creation/modified date any earlier?

There is a program called "Touch" that you can alter the file date modified attribute. There is a direct Linux/Unix function to do this directly on the server. The "Touch" program is NT/Windows based.

Many used this trick early last year, when AV was giving "big" relevancy boost to older URL's in their index. Can't get much older than 1/1/70, can you? :)

I think someone caught on to it at AV early in 99', and filtered it, because I quit seeing relevancy boost for the 1/1/70 URL's in their index.

[Rockintom]

redzone
Interesting. Thanks for the education.