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Buying degress

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ThomasB

8:39 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does it work to buy a degree? I just found a site that gives me the Master in "Internet Marketing" for about 150 USD. Do your really get sth or is it just a waste of money? I wouldn't use it for my CV, but it would be nice to have sth like that :)

Macguru

9:21 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How many diplomas do you really need before detecting a scam?

edit_g

11:17 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why pay money for a fake diploma - a free, made up one by you, is worth just as much.

If the people you're sending your CV to won't place different weights on a degree from the university of aruba and one from Oxford then you're not applying to the right jobs. :)

gopi

11:48 pm on May 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just paypal me $100 and click this page to create your own degree certificate :)

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mods , i hope the link is ok ...

Macguru

12:14 am on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>mods , i hope the link is ok ...

Hi gopi,

Since your link was to a free and reputable ressource, also contributed to the topic, and in the right forum, I dont see why such another great contribution of yours could be in any way questionnable.

PatrickDeese

1:57 am on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thomas - most of those spam email say something like

"....a degree from a prestigious non-accredited university."

A non-accredited university is likely to be set up in someone's home office and about as prestigious as herpes simplex.

mivox

6:37 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have a Doctor of Metaphysics degree from the Universal Life Church... anyone want to hire me to teach a university philosophy course? ;) (I also have a certificate saying I'm a "Spiritual Counselor"... Think the local faith-based psych clinic would hire me?)

hannamyluv

6:50 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When I was traveling in Thailand, you could buy a degree on the street corner in highly trafficed backpacker areas.

Lots of backpackers wanted to teach English and in many of the more developed Asian countries and degree was required.

TheDoctor

8:04 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You have to pay for real degrees in England nowadays...

ThomasB

9:05 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ok, my exam is over. went well. :) Might not need the degree. A wise men told me he has no degrees but from what I know he's one of the most respected persons in his area. Made me thinking. But if I ever discover a very nice one I think I'd buy one. :D

PhraSEOlogy

5:28 am on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A thermometer has lots of degrees but its not very smart.

Gopi - thanks for the link I now have a masters in business admin hanging on my wall!

jsinger

9:04 pm on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My son recently completed his first semester in a real college where he received a 3.8 on his report card. He's been showered with invitations from various freshman "honor societies." They always come on gorgeous stationery with a SASE for us to enclose our $50-$100 initiation fee.

No Phi Beta Kappa invite yet!

What's the deal with these?

PatrickDeese

1:55 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> What's the deal with these?

One of my former business partners paid to be in "XYZ" Who's Who index - it was about $250.

He got a plaque with his name on it and a booklet that listed all the other suckers that paid the same fee.

jsinger

3:05 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That booklet would be a bargain if it included phone numbers and addresses. Sleazy stock brokers pay a fortune for sucker lists.

Yeah, I know about those Who's Who deals.

But these Honor Societies must have some backing from the schools. They had an idea of my son's grades and they had our address. One had a banquet planned for new members and their families.

Still, an Honor Society where membership is based on one semester's grades has to be a scam.

jsinger

3:15 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also reminds me of those mail order outfits that sell you "your" family's Coat of Arms on a plaque.

Heck, if my family had a Coat of Arms they wouldn't have left Europe in the bowels of a tramp steamer in 1890!

mivox

8:29 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You have to pay for real degrees in England nowadays...

We've had to pay for real degrees in the US all along, I have no pity. ;)

ThomasB

10:16 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You pay, germans have to learn. ;)

jsinger

10:52 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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U.S. gov't has compiled a list of diploma mills for use in verifying credentials of job applicants. Britain has toughened laws relating to mills. You can find lists of phony schools online.

The hilarious thing is you can look up the names of these well-known diploma mills on the web and you'll find them included in the bios of many college professors, including some at major schools.

mivox

12:56 am on May 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You pay, germans have to learn.

We have the option to learn... and the professors treat you *really* nicely if you show any inclination or desire to do so. ;)

grelmar

1:31 am on May 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I knew that lovely textured linen paper would come in handy someday!

Now I have a History Degree, so mebbe the wife will stop complaining about the amout of time I spend sacked out in fron to the History Channel ;)

ronin

12:40 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It was never a good idea to let market economics loose on universities. Far better to make all tertiary education free, but very demanding. Anyone who can't hack it gets kicked out.

If you're not academically inclined, go get an apprenticeship, go to a polytechnic college, get a vocational qualification, do evening courses... anything but don't foul up university research based disciplines because "you want to improve your job prospects". It's got nothing to do with any job, unless that job is being a research fellow / professor.

I curse all governments and employers who confuse academic achievement with vocational aptitude. The two are entirely different and should be kept distinct.

Hawkgirl

11:51 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My sister is in a pretty prestigious executive MBA program here in the US. One day, while I was eating dinner, she was grumbling about a paper she had to write.

She said, "I'm not going to do that much on this one. I'm not going for an 'A', because I don't have time to put in the effort. I just want the 'B' I paid for."

I nearly choked on my soup.

grelmar

10:25 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree with the above sentiment about university and economic forces not being real compatible, and it has had a particularly nasty effect in north america.

Most European universities don't even have Management programs, they don't consider it apropriate. I tend to agree. I never understood why people thought you can teach good management. Management is about leadership and or vision, and these aren't subjects particularly suited to the classroom. You either have it, or you don't.

I worked at a very big corporation to put myself through University, and there was a mix of managers who'd risen through the ranks the old fashioned way (from the mail-room, to the board room, as they say), managers who'd come up through the technical and professional departments (engineers, accountants, etc.), and managers who'd stepped right into management positions out of University, clutching MBAs to prove their skills.

Without fail, the worst managers to work for were the MBA types, and it boggled me as to why they kept hiring them, because none of them made it past middle management. All of the senior management were people who came out of technical areas of the company (mostly engineers, and a few out of accounting), with a sprinkling of bureaucratic grunts who'd risen from lowly "clerk" white collar positions and bull-dogged their way through the company. (Some of these last were AWESOME managers, they'd worked their way through this massive byzantine bureaucracy, and knew the ins and outs of virtually every department. One of the VPs when I was there was a high-school dropout, and had risen this way, and was in charge of the largest business units in the company, and was hugely well respected).

This is a "one company" example, because it was the one and only time I have ever worked directly for a massive mega-corp type company, but I believe there are a lot of other companies out there like this.

hannamyluv

1:57 pm on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmm... Wired article on the subject of buying degrees.

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