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Master and Slave Drives

Derogatory?

         

chadmg

5:27 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thought this article was pretty rediculous...
[cnn.com...]

Distel

5:50 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Until my hard disks crawl out of my computer by themselves, take to the streets, and demand equal rights, those politically correct idiots can (as Homer once said so eloquently) "kiss my hairy yellow but".

;)

lawman

6:02 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A small but vocal group is offended at my profession. Initially members of the "offended" group called me to tell me what a disgusting creature I am. Then they tried to get radio stations I advertise with to ban my ads. When they were unsuccessful with those attempts, they petitioned the state agency that issues license plates to recall my vanity plate.

The agency sent me a letter telling me the plate offended somebody and directed me to return it. Citing state law and their own agency rules, I informed them that the tag was not in violation of either. They didn't care, they wanted my plate. I got a lawyer to fire a couple of shots across their bow.

That was three years ago. I'm still here, the ads are still running, and I've still got the license plate.

lawman

iamlost

7:46 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lawman: an intelligent client/wise lawyer who does not represent himself! Explains your sage counsel here at webmasterworld.

Sensitivity has run amok (woops, an ethnic slip!) and the politically correct witch (ah oh!) hunters have conveniently forgotten that most words have multiple meanings and shades of meanings depending on context. How the context of inanimate (as far as I know?) computer hardware relates to American historical inequities is beyond me. Perhaps context is too difficult a concept. Perhaps being grey in a black and white world is passe. However that may be, I will not go gentle into that good night.

vmcknight

9:04 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hope nobody tells this guy about "male" and "female" plugs. All that blatant hardware intercourse is just shocking!

lawman

9:29 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>lawman: an intelligent client/wise lawyer who does not represent himself! Explains your sage counsel here at webmasterworld.

First, a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.

Second, a man's got to know his limitations (I specialize). :)

lawman

bull

9:41 pm on Nov 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Interesting...I wonder why such an insane p'correct discourse did not happen here in Germany yet. Well, read it and forgot it. ;)

graywolf

4:31 am on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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distel said

my hairy yellow but

Dude, maybe you should get that looked at by a doctor! ;-)

Distel

10:26 am on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dude, maybe you should get that looked at by a doctor! ;-)

Nothing a good shower won't cure. ;)

kevinpate

5:14 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A friend of mine clued me in to the master/slave computer relabeling efforts out in Cali and offered up a rather unique solution.

If the industry standard Master/slave designations truly needed to be changed, my friend's belief is that the new terms ought to be Mistress and worm.

jsinger

5:45 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've always been microscopically repulsed by the drive designations as I felt it was dumb marketing to offend any group of customers.

The perfectly good word "niggardly" has largely disappeared from the language for that reason. Last month, a white alderman in our municipal government used "niggardly" in reference to cost-cutting. That caused quite an uproar, especially in the Black community.

In a strictly technical sense, I don't think those drive terms are ideal or neccessary.

Fiver

8:41 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In a strictly technical sense, I don't think those drive terms are ideal or neccessary.

They're descriptive and intuitive, and the differentiation is still necessary. I'm trying to think of a better designation... employer employee? nope. primary secondary? not bad, but that already refers to the ide channel of the device... hmmm.

I'm Irish, my genealogy is filled with slavery, and I'm able to not be offended (granted, there's no modern day prejudice, as you can't tell I'm Irish by looking at me, cept maybe at the pub).

Distel

8:46 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ow about "drive" and "hierarchically challenged drive"?

Reflection

9:45 pm on Nov 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've always been microscopically repulsed

'Repulsed' is a pretty strong word to use when it is qualified by 'microscopically' ;)

They're descriptive and intuitive, and the differentiation is still necessary.

I would agree, same thing with male/female plugs.

jsinger

1:53 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My guess is that "master/servant" will be in disuse by drive makers within a year. Many options just as good:
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dominant - subordinate
superior - inferior
first - second
A - B (etc)
paramount - secondary
transcendent - submissive
ruling - subject
reigning - subject
main - secondary
captor - captive
master - servant
master - agent
employer - employee
supervisor - subordinate
overseer - worker
taskmaster - worker
major - minor
high - low
primary - secondary

Lilliabeth

2:59 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But, WHY? Why does somebody care?

I really don't get it.

Is it that just hearing the words master and slave causes pain?

Can somebody help me understand?

jsinger

4:27 am on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Master/Slave doesn't personally bother me much. But to some--blacks and WWII slave laborers, among others--the phrase is somber, maybe painful. In the U.S. 300,000 Union soldiers died in part to end the master/slave relationship.
Slavery is so abhorrent that it is outlawed everywhere.

Master/slave has a long pedigree of disrepute, and gravitas.

We don't have computer components called "child molesters" or "rapists" or "concentration camp commandants" even if such terms might be wonderfully descriptive.

DaveAtIFG

12:21 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As a former Field Service Engineer, we've always had one device "slaved" to another, often they are "daisy chained" together, using cables with male and female plugs.

Hanging my head in shame
As a formerly proud professional, I'm now thoroughly ashamed to realize what a politically incorrect profession I was a part of for so many years. It's nearly as embarrassing as being an attorney! ;)

Distel

12:32 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From CNN's text:

"We would request that each manufacturer, supplier and contractor review, identify and remove/change any identification or labeling of equipment components that could be interpreted as discriminatory or offensive in nature,"

Which means that I, as a user, can still use "slave" labels and call my hard drives as such. This, in turn, means that manufacturers, suppliers and contractors are discriminated. I therefore move to ignore this politically correct request and let us get on with our frickin' business.