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David Copperfield

"Illusion"

         

Triple_H

6:09 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey, all
I brought Copperfield's "Illusion" DVD in hope that I may watch closely to his tricks and get a clue of how he might possibly accomplish them. However, I'm a little disappointed now because after I watched it, I still could not figure out this great magician's secrets though I very much appreciate his awesome works.
Just for the hack of it, anyone has any insight on magic and/or illusion?

~~magician-wanna-be:)

dmorison

6:15 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hiya,

There are a number of websites that reverse engineer Copperfields illusions, spend half an hour searching.

The famous disappearing Statue of Liberty involved physically moving the audience on a hidden rotating platform so subtly that they wouldn't have noticed.

dmorison

6:32 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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By the way here's a cool trick to impress your friends.

Hand them a pack of cards (even more impressive if they're still shrink wrapped); have them open the pack, and perform some complex manoeuvre to pick a card.

Get them to show their chosen card to some observers (but not you of course), and then return the card to the pack.

Then ask them to perform an equally complex array of manoeuvres, and finally get them to split the pack at any point.

Finally, ask them to turn over the top card of the bottom half of the split, and reveal their chosen card to an astounded audience.

It only works 1 in 52 times; but when it does it is extremely impressive.

digitalghost

7:22 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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When I was playing with illusions and slight of hand I spent a lot of time ordering books from Tannen's Magic Shop. You can get the plans to many of the large illusions in catalogs.

If you'r in S.A.M or I.B.M you'll also have access to some of the people that have built many similar illusions. Haines House Of Cards in Norwood, Ohio carries a pretty good selection of books that explain the big illusions and the principles used in building them.

I used to spend a lot of time in front of a mirror with some knuckle-busting sleights and you'll find that close-up magic is often more appreciated, especially if the gimmick is nothing more than sleights. Well, you can always use a few gimmicked coins and cards. You can have a lot of fun with invisible thread, Kirkendall reels and a thumb tip. ;)

I always preferred close-up table magic to stage illusions but there are several excellent stage illusions that are really inexpensive. Jumping signed dollar is a good one, Wunder Bar is a close-up levitation that will knock people's socks off, especially if you buy the ThunderBar to go along with it, the gimmick is so simple that you'll wonder why you didn't think of it. :)

I still have a Stull Watch, non-working and Stull is dead, so you can't find them anymore but the Geneva Watch is quite good and a sure bar bet winner...

Visit Thailand

7:30 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The latest Jeffery Deaver book talks a alot about Magic, quite interesting but not his best book imho - might give you some insight though.

TheWhippinpost

7:37 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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DMORISON:
It only works 1 in 52 times; but when it does it is extremely impressive
ROFL :ŹD

JonB

1:34 pm on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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some time ago out TV aired some "magic reveled" series when some masked magician revealed quite lot of impressive tricks...try searching on "masked magician" or somethign like this...

mil2k

7:12 pm on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hey DG good to hear you have Also Practiced some magic :)

It's very difficult to teach illusions on a board. I will try and teach something which is easier to explain out here.

Magic name :-Sixth Sense

Props :- A Pen, Paper and a Calculator if possible.

Type Of trick :- Maths Based.

STEP 1 :-Ask a person from audience to come and write a 5 digit no. on a piece of paper.

Suppose he writes :- 26741 Now look at this no (ie. twenty six thousand,seven hundred and forty one). Subtract 2 from it and add 2 to the beginning of this no. and write the resultant no aside the original no. Hence in this example you subtract 2 out of 26,743 and you get 26,739 and adding 2 to the beginning the resultant no becomes 226739. Write that no aside 26741. So your paper would look like :-


26,741 ----------->226,739

STEP 2 :- Now tell your audience to write another 5 digit no below the original no. Suppose he writes 87436 below the original no of 26741 so your paper would look like :-


26,741 ----------->226,739
87,436

Now your job is to look at the second no (i.e.87,436) and subtract each digit from 9 and write the resultant no. Hence we separate the digits and then subtracting each digit from 9 gives us :- (9-8)(9-7)(9-4)(9-3)(9-6) i.e. 12563. Write this no. below 87,436. Hence your paper would look like :-


26,741 ----------->226,739
87,436
12,563

STEP 3 :- Repeat the whole step 2 again. Hence suppose the audience member writes another no like 98456 you write 01543 below his no. So finally you will have :-


+26,741 ----------->226,739
+87,436
+12,563
+98,456
+01,543
------------
226,739

If you add up all the numbers you will get a no. which you wrote just after the audience member wrote the first number. In this case 226,739

Howz That?

If you like this I might teach something more simpler ;) Just thought to add that my best illusion trick involves a simple rubber band. It has never failed as yet and is a trick I learned when I was in fifth grade :)

MrSpeed

11:31 am on Jul 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anybody see the guy on tv recently that does all fo his stuff in the street, usually with cards? All close up stuff. He had a few tricks that appeared to be impossible. STuff like the pick a card, show everybody, place back in deck , shuffle shuffle, card i sno longer in deck but stuck to the window of the nearby restaurant,....on the INSIDE of the glass.

He also had a levitation trick that looked awesome.

lawman

1:00 pm on Jul 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Levitation Trick [gcgordy.crosswinds.net] explained.

Here's [gcgordy.crosswinds.net] the "card stuck to the window" trick.

lawman

skibum

3:33 am on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The guy on the street sounds like David Blaine [abc.abcnews.go.com]. He's really good - the one that was in that block of ice in Times Square in NYC for a few days or a week.

FOX was the network, I think that had that "magic revealed" series. That showed how Copperfield did some things and how Blaine didn't really stay in that block of ice for very long.

Copperfield is on tour now I think. He puts on a great show.

mil2k

5:57 am on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just thought to add that the tricks involving bigger illusions like Disappearing Monuments and mountains are based on the principle that the refractive index of air changes when bombarded with LASER. That's what I heard from one of a Great magician's interview. :)

digitalghost

6:08 am on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I really love to watch a good magician perform and I think it's a shame that the Masked Magician is touring and revealing the secrets behind some really good illusions.

On top of that, knowing the gimmick behind an illusion or a trick certainly doesn't mean that "anyone" can do it and I know a lot of people that think along those lines.

I had someone constantly badgering me about the cigarette through quarter trick, so I tossed him the gimmicked quarter and said, "Here, have at it". The gimmick is only part of the trick. The patter, the routine, the sleights and the misdirection still have to be learned.

Some very simple looking magic requires some knuckle-busting sleight-of-hand. And most people are disappointed when they order a gimmick and realize how simple the gimmick is, then learn that the routine requires practice, in front of a mirror, checking angles and using misdirection to ensure there's no "flashing".

Once you know the secret it's not really magic anymore is it? ;)

MrSpeed

12:46 pm on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it's a shame that the Masked Magician is touring and revealing the secrets behind some really good illusions.

I know this has been debated to death but I'm one of the guys who thinks the Masked Magician was good for magic. He probably exposed a lot more people to magic than just about anybody else. He probably even raised the bar in terms of tricks and presentation.

I saw Copperfield soon after seeing the Masked Magician on TV and yet I don't think I figured out one trick Copperfield did. I was totally baffled and entertained. Same for any magic special on TV.

I knew people palmed objects since I was 4, yet I still go Wow! when somebody makes a quarter dissapear.

digitalghost

12:57 pm on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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He probably did raise interest, but he also broke the code that all magicians are supposed to adhere to. People that want to study and learn magic can always find the secrets, having someone reveal them to the world on TV kind of gave me a bad taste in my mouth.

Not real sure of his motivation, could have been professional jealousy, cash or maybe he just wanted to expose the methods that were used. My feelings are mixed.

JonB

1:04 pm on Jul 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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digitalghost, i think it was money.i dont think he didi it to "raise" the standard so magicians msut lean new tricks...could be he was not sucesful as magician and he wa s angry on other magicians earning a lot of moneya so he found a unique way to earn money...

magic is cool..unfortunatelly in Slovenia i dont know any good magician..not a single good one...

mil2k

6:28 am on Jul 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The patter, the routine, the sleights and the misdirection still have to be learned.

Yeah and So does acting play an important role. Always felt that practicing in front of small children was very helpful bcoz sometimes they are very quick to pick up things and speak their mind out :)

digitalghost

6:35 am on Jul 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>small children

Fooling a 5 year-old is difficult, fooling a world-wise business exec is a piece of cake. Children don't give a hoot about logic or physics, if the quarter vanished, they know it's in your other hand. The Exec is wondering where it really is. ;)

MrSpeed

2:39 pm on Jul 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I tried a Balducci Levitation in front of my kids (8, 10 & 12). The look on their faces was priceless. The 12 year old was skeptical right away but still impressed.

Next I'm going to master the moonwalk.

willybfriendly

3:21 pm on Jul 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fooling a 5 year-old is difficult, fooling a world-wise business exec is a piece of cake. Children don't give a hoot about logic or physics, if the quarter vanished, they know it's in your other hand. The Exec is wondering where it really is.

Yeah, so he can put it in his pocket!

Patter and misdirection are pre-req's for employment as a business exec these days. Ken Lay was everybit as good at creating illusions as David Copperfield :)

Find an old copy of "Stars of Magic". Learn the trick "Decapitated". That one simple trick, done with an ordinary bood of matches, will amaze everyone...even that 5 year old.

Interesting to see how many on these boards have dabbled in the legrdemain...

WBF

magis6

5:10 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)



Hey everybody,

I came across this post while searching, and I thought I could set a few things straight-
I've been a magician, and designer of stage illusions, for over 12 years. I know how the effects are done, including those performed by David Copperfield and David Blaine.
The explanations for the Liberty Vanish given by dmorison and mil2k are not correct. Although dmorison's version is possible for smaller vanishes.
As for the card thru window, I've used that method to great success in the past, but for the last several years I've had the spectator sign the card before it goes thru the window.
I also perform most of the "exposed" effects with different methods as well.

[edited by: Marcia at 11:11 pm (utc) on July 28, 2003]