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What if every Webmaster on this forum.?

Change HTML title tag to: Please wear a Mask in Public!

         

blend27

4:28 pm on Aug 6, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Would that effect their, and I mean their visitors behavior in public?

I just came back from a local garden market. The young lady and a man affront of me were not able to checkout due to cashier refusing to take their money because they were not wearing masks. Outdoors.

Been going to this place for years, physically 2 houses down a street.

They are down a team member. Old Man Sal. Passed away 2 weeks ago from Covid-19.

Me and several classmates of mine from 19 different countries had started local efforts to do just that.

Please WEAR a MASK.

So the question is what would happen if we as the Smarter Kind change HTML Title tags to reflect the reality?

tangor

8:03 pm on Aug 6, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Some believe in masks (as science) and some believe masks don't work (as science). Both may be correct. Why take chances on alienating any part of your audience since the web does not require either?

brotherhood of LAN

8:10 pm on Aug 6, 2020 (gmt 0)

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>What if

Your traffic would probably decrease, last I saw about ~50% on average of traffic is driven by search engines. Noble idea but it'd end up being seen by less people than you intended to. Algorithms are unforgiving like that.

I'll wear a mask to shops (it's mandatory here) and am avoiding pubs/cafes for the foreseeable.

If wanting to start a trend, remember when those Paris shootings happened and about half of Facebook showed solidarity on their profile? I think that's quite effective. I'm not on social media any more though so couldn't take part in that.

blend27

12:35 am on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Re: Team Member Sal...

I watched an interview with the lady that works with AI and she said she had difficulty concentrating after surviving the Virus.

My point is if more message is being displayed in a wild wild web titles would it make human behavior more computational toward each other? Title tag says wear a mask. SEs dont discriminate in rankings simply because of the fact, and it is a fact... would humans also heed in none noun fashion manor?

blend27

12:41 am on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@tangor >> web does not require either?

..what if "Place an Order" button had a small caps message asking a question to do so? Just kicking it..

Hell(ish), better than feeding mosquitoes by your self in a back yard on a Friday night these days..

tangor

2:10 am on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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When the web rises to the ability to INFECT YOU with a RESPIRATORY ailment---perhaps.

Why take any chance of offending any potential visitor, or buyer of your product(s)?

ON THE OTHER HAND, it is perfectly acceptable to sidebar (home page or every page) a statement such as:

"We support the use of masks. We hope you do as well!"

blend27

2:12 am on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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But for ages I've been serving a custom message to scrapers of content on my sites, as IBill said so, so I could track where it comes from...

And now it includes "Wear A Mask". << strike that

<p style="color:red;">We support the use of masks. We hope you do as well!</p>

That has a 16px space without a scroll bar on several parked domains, there they go! Published!

Thank You.

topr8

11:44 am on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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that kind of vitrue signaling garbage puts more people off than you might imagine.

ronin

2:18 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure that wanting shop assistants to not have to risk disproportionate exposure from a respiratory virus qualifies as virtue signalling, does it?

Certainly, I believe that anyone should have the liberty to not wear a face covering if they don't wish to.

But I also believe that the shop staff have no less a right to refuse to serve those who exercise that liberty.

This isn't substantially different from smoking, is it? Yes, you can smoke. But not in our shop.

topr8

3:20 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@ronin ... whatever the rights/wrongs or pluses/minuses of facemasks ... i think it fair to say most if not all people already know the rules or the recommendations already ... i wasn't passing comment on that at all, one way or the other.

what i meant to convey was that changing the title of your website to "Please WEAR a MASK." ... absolutely is virtue signalling and that in my opinion it is off putting to many people.

i completely agree with tangor: "Why take chances on alienating any part of your audience"

blend27

3:35 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Now I am saying that SAL was the heart of the small market in town once a week for 3 month every year, shared tips on how to on tomato growing.

Got bitten in right ear, twice this morning, SAL would say: Grow mosquito plants...

Title tags don't bite do they? The big oval mirror in master bedroom does.

and now I am saying, I dont know.

lucy24

4:43 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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most if not all people already know the rules or the recommendations already
Not in the US, which I believe is the target audience for this thread.

blend27

5:18 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Out of bunch, 6 sites that I manage >> Homepages got re-crawled this morning by Goog and $M.

Hopefully I did my thing, even a little bit, and will continue to do.

@Lucy24

Yes. US, NJ. No reason to ease up. We went thru hell earlier.

tangor

7:36 pm on Aug 7, 2020 (gmt 0)

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My primary concern is changing the HTML <title> to a "message" that g might eventually decide was being used as misinformation, click bait, or other "spam-like" activity.

Say what you like on the PAGE, but don't mess with your <title>!

The masters of the universe are very particular on who gives out medical advice, particularly as it relates to Covid-19.

Just sayin'

YMMV

ronin

11:39 am on Aug 8, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Re:
"Why take chances on alienating any part of your audience"


This is a good question and it relates to models of society and the order of priorities in those different models.

In societies which enshrine libertarian consumption (like the UK and the USA) then the customer (and often the individual citizen) is left to their own devices and is "always right" (in theory, if not always in practice) and is generally held to be the self-determining arbiter of their own affairs.

In other models, such as a social market economy like Germany, where I lived in my early twenties for a brief time, there is a concept called Zivilcourage (or civic courage) where as pro-active members of society, individuals are entitled to guide other members of society in doing the right thing for themselves, for others and for society generally.

Consequently an individual attempting to jaywalk may be chided by another who asks them what kind of example it sets for children who might not know better; or else an individual acting anti-socially (by, for instance, playing their own music too loudly) on a metropolitan light railway (be it BART, Subway, tube or U-Bahn) may be interrupted and asked to maybe think about acting a little less anti-socially.

You can favour that model or the Anglo-American model of civic interaction (or indeed any other model) and very probably, as in all things, there is a balance to be struck, but, in essence, the answer to the question:

"Why take chances on alienating any part of your audience"


is:
"Why take chances on any part of your audience alienating any other part of your audience?"


And, yes, I recognise that in a more individualistic society, the answer to the last question is:

"Whether they do or don't, it's not my problem."


But that's just the point - in a society which prizes consensus-based societal interaction (and, by extension, civic courage), it is your problem.

blend27

2:16 pm on Aug 8, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@tangor - "click bait"

Click bait would be something like: Here are 17 ways to wear a mask, Here are the latest...

With top 10 in SERP pointing to EBay and Etsy, right?

@ronin

Thank You.

tangor

9:04 pm on Aug 8, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@blend27 ...

Changing a page title to "Wear a Mask!" for a site that is about Widgets gives conflicting signals to your bread and butter, ie: Search Engines.

Virtue signal at your own peril.

Don't get me wrong, when you are in real life and in public calling out bad behavior is part of finding a solution, but not on a website where you visitors never come in contact with more than your content displayed on THEIR computers.

In any event, we know g changes titles in the serps all the time and this type of title would certainly suggest they do more of it, not less. I'm not saying DON'T DO IT, I'm just suggesting there are obvious consequences for changing your site from "one thing" to "a different thing" that touches upon medical advice, political activism, and social engineering that as nothing to do with the content/product of the website AS INDEXED.

Me? I'll concentrated on my audience and what they are seeking.

blend27

3:55 am on Aug 10, 2020 (gmt 0)

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@tangor,

Hey, Thanks for replying, not trying to be political over here at all. I know about Goog/SEs changing the titles and all that.

...and then it is 'grilled cheese o'clock' on every digital screen that I've seen in this and every other household. We are providing content for consumption after all. It is about being healthier, not healthiest.

Just a small push, with a Please!