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Reading articles fast becoming too complicated

         

JS_Harris

8:48 pm on Mar 22, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Steps for reading articles:

    1 - accept cookies
    2 - deny notifications
    3 - deny website location
    4 - decline subscription invite
    5 - mute sound/block autoplay
    6 - dismiss "free articles remaining" notice
    7 - Shrink banner (dropdown etc)
    8 - Click "read more"
    9 - Forget it

Disclaimer: I did not create this incomplete list. The list keeps getting longer, do your part to shrink it down again!

vordmeister

9:06 pm on Mar 22, 2020 (gmt 0)

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It's for your own safety and privacy that you have to click to agree your life away before you can read anything. I hear that some foolish people don't even spend a very reasonable 10 minutes on every page selecting the best options for them and just click a button to agree to whatever the words might have said in order to get past the splash screen.

Would have been kind of nice to have some rule about what is sensible to publish rather than pushing it on to the visitor to agree every single time. On the other hand if rules this silly happen then maybe it is better that we don't get guidance about what is appropriate.

It used to be quicker to back off from a page when it turned out to be rubbish.

iamlost

10:17 pm on Mar 22, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it is a pita to visit many sites even with a decent ad/tracker blocker.

I wish that sites (and agencies) would wake up and smell the ad networks (and complicit agencies) hype for the scam it mostly is.

Many sites don’t need cookies at all, most that do only need them for core functionality (security, network management, accessibility). The vast majority of cookies/trackers are ‘needed’ by third parties harvesting your customers data and your sites intellectual property; third parties that have sold the idea of targeting and personalisation of their services as an ‘advantage’ to you.
Note: also sold to advertisers et al as an up sell ‘advantage’.

In the vast majority of cases there is no such advantage to anyone but the MITM third party network.

Notifications of any sort be they subscription invites, free number remaining etc. are almost universally misapplied in a manner most likely to decrease desired action conversion - a very strange behaviour. Must simply be some sheeple design default.

Autoplay has use cases but they are limited and should be rare edge cases; again some sheeple design default most likely accomplishing the opposite of desired outcome.

Drop downs, side slides, and modal windows are useful tools oft misused; mostly a matter of a hammer mindset treating every problem as a nail.

Click ‘read more’ is such a cludge. Sites really need to get over it.

I blame frameworks. Webdevs, accustomed to third party tools determining their SEO, are quite happy to let generic third party frameworks determine their site architecture, page layout, etc. et al ad nauseum.
Note: plus of course giving third party af/af networks the keys to the kingdom.

Sad really. And #*$! irritating. And a quite marvellous competitive advantage.

JorgeV

10:45 pm on Mar 22, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

Yes, it is a pita to visit many sites even with a decent ad/tracker blocker

Then it adds "step", with "we detected that you use an ad blocker, blah blah".

That being said, what I find sad is that, the little guy like me, who doesn't show anything which would delay the reading/access to my pages, is not really getting benefits for acting nicely. Most people are consuming the Internet, without really minding.

lucy24

12:07 am on Mar 23, 2020 (gmt 0)

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"we detected that you use an ad blocker, blah blah"
“Please consider disabling your ad blocker.”

Nah. How ’bout if you (the site, not anyone in this thread) consider not placing fourteen ads on a page that can be viewed without scrolling. Out of curiosity I switched off the ad blocker and reloaded. One ad was visible--OK, fine, so far so good--and then the page took another half-minute to finish loading thanks to all the non-visible ads. Faster to click “continue without ads”.

RhinoFish

3:52 pm on Mar 23, 2020 (gmt 0)

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was... Video killed the Radio Star
now... Privacy (violations) killed the Freemium War

engine

4:44 pm on Mar 23, 2020 (gmt 0)

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I completely agree, it's become a nightmare, and I often back out primarily because I really cannot be bothered to give them all my data. Don't get me wrong, I do not mind ads, it's the detailed tracking I object to.

Some sites don't detect mobile and the agreement is off the screen.

tangor

2:22 pm on Mar 25, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Since I routinely use ad blockers and script killers and deny all third party cookies I don't have this problem. If I hit a site that asks me to "disable your ad blocker" I MAY try one more thing... I switch to No Style and usually get the site, read what I want, and leave.