Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.144.24.41

Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

OK comments

Car buffs here is your chance.

     
11:47 pm on Feb 13, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member bwnbwn is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Oct 25, 2005
posts:3589
votes: 45


1500 yes one thousand 5 hundred horsepower electric ready to fly.

[msn.com...]
11:56 pm on Feb 13, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tangor is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Nov 29, 2005
posts:8890
votes: 729


Can pass anything except a carbon fueled recharging station. Meanwhile, has that retrograde Transformers appearance. Sweet!
12:17 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


The media is always throwing around hp numbers. Electric or combustion, the issue isn't the hp but torque management on the ground.
3:29 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member lawman is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:May 28, 2001
posts:3615
votes: 75


I'd like to see the power/torque curves on a dynojet run file. I suspect if the HP number is accurate, the torque number would be off the dyno chart.
3:47 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


I'd like to see the power/torque curves on a dynojet
Dynojet, even the latest version, returns elevated numbers. Probably why car owners like to use it, that and the affordability.

EFI Live, Accel EFI and Big Stuff 3 are better at calculating accurate hp & torque real performance results. I prefer EFI Live for the best accuracy, but it's expensive and few shops can afford it.
3:50 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Administrator

WebmasterWorld Administrator phranque is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Aug 10, 2004
posts:11529
votes: 179


the issue isn't the hp but torque management on the ground


zero to 60 m.p.h. in under 2.6 seconds:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the-worlds-first-1500-horsepower-supercar-is-here/ar-AAmTKrd [msn.com]
3:58 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


Yup I read that :) Nice of the media to include that stat, but just another number without the the details.

My point is, the hyperbole used in these types of stories tells little about the engineering of the car itself, the conditions the car was tested under, the diagnostics, etc.

Sounds like a fun groceries getter :)
8:28 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member lawman is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:May 28, 2001
posts:3615
votes: 75


>>EFI Live. . .

Ha, a tuning snob. In my world it was Mustang numbers v. Dynojet numbers. I suppose the real test of the numbers is what it does at the track. 2.6 second 0-60 ain't too shabby. It's been so long since I've checked (used to have a device hooked up to my car) I can't remember my number, but it was in the 3s somewhere when I got a good launch. I focused more on the 60' time, ET and trap speed. What it did 0-60 didn't really concern me.
8:34 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


One of the great things about advancements in electric motorsports is that these technological gains will benefit other auto manufacturers, moving the entire electric car industry forward.

Besides Tesla & a couple other prototypes, high-end electric performance cars haven't seen much development until recently. Stuff like this will get other race car developers interested in electric, with more advances to come.
8:47 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tangor is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Nov 29, 2005
posts:8890
votes: 729


What is so cool about FAST electric cars is if NASCAR piles on the televised shows will be about 45 minutes as pit stops will be eliminated and the high performance will drain batteries lickety split. (Ducking, dodging)

From a more practical viewpoint electric moves are a good thing. I know a few who need their wheel chair to get better than 15mph and a larger silhouette on the city streets to the grocery store. That 0-60 thingie ain't that important.
8:55 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


RE: NASCAR - more to the pit than just refueling.

I'm not addicted to gasoline by any means; just been waiting for an electric car to give me the same wow factor as I get in my Corvette.

So far the few electric jobs I've driven were boring.
10:08 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Administrator

WebmasterWorld Administrator phranque is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Aug 10, 2004
posts:11529
votes: 179


So far the few electric jobs I've driven were boring.

half of the top-10 (including the top 3) production cars in 0-60 performance are all-electric or hybrid electric.
you probably haven't driven one of these.
11:02 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tangor is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Nov 29, 2005
posts:8890
votes: 729


RE: NASCAR - more to the pit than just refueling.

True, I just know electric can't be refueled in x or even xx seconds. Change tires and run till the battery is drained.

Or, from different perspective, there'll be no "500"s and might not even make "200" when pedal to the metal. :)

Electric is great ... but performance on the track in competition is not like commuter driving with an overnight to recharge.
11:05 am on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member keyplyr is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 26, 2001
posts:12913
votes: 891


Not really fair to compare electric cars to combustion cars and the culture we've developed because of their capabilities. Electric cars really are the future and will have a culture of their own.

you probably haven't driven one of these
Well I did say I've driven just a few; those owned by friends. There are showrooms about town but getting them to hand over the keys (or fob as the case may be) is another story.
1:00 pm on Feb 14, 2017 (gmt 0)

Administrator from GB 

WebmasterWorld Administrator engine is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:May 9, 2000
posts:25787
votes: 834


That's a spectacular looking vehicle!

I'm sure the team were trying to show what can be done, and it's turned out pretty good.

Comparing electric vehicles to gasoline-powered vehicles is just not the same, especially when you are talking about performance and racing. Gasoline-powered is a mature technology, whereas pure electric is just in the early stages.
Torque is a key factor in actual performance of the vehicle, and battery-powered vehicles usually have excellent torque figures relative to gasoline powered vehicles. Hybrid is relatively new technology, compared to gasoline-powered, but it does give an excellent compromise, and enhances the overall torque of a gasoline powered vehicle.
I have driven a few hybrids on the roads, and they can out-perform the equivalent gasoline-powered in some respects, such as providing a higher torque at lower engine revs because the power is coming from an electric motor while the engine is not at it's maximum power efficiency.
Of course, most road cars are sanitised so that drivers don't kill themselves, and to gain maximum fuel efficiency.
Getting the power down to the road is the biggest challenge, and wheel-spins look exciting, but waste energy, and results in a slower take off.
A very good driver will usually outperform the average driver from the get go because of their skill in getting the power down, but when it comes to straight line, and the power is down, it's just a story of power to weight ratio, and then above a certain speed, aerodynamics kick in. The 0-60 is one of those critical measurements because beyond 56mph wind resistance takes over from road resistance, and that's where aerodynamics and power really show. In very simple terms horsepower is a figure people can relate to, whereas torque is not usually promoted to sell a car.
9:30 am on Feb 15, 2017 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member bwnbwn is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Oct 25, 2005
posts:3589
votes: 45


Glad to see we have some web experts that know about cars. I am excited to see a launch like this for the simple reason "interest" breeds development.

Solar Power has hit record levels. [seia.org...]

And electric powered cars are growing at a record level. [cleantechnica.com...]

I look to see probably in 10 years very heavily populated cities around the world electric will become required to reduce air pollution.
 

Join The Conversation

Moderators and Top Contributors

Hot Threads This Week

Featured Threads

Free SEO Tools

Hire Expert Members