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Headline: "Genetically Modified Salmon to Go Before FDA"

Talking fish! I gotta start paying more attention

         

weeks

7:43 pm on Sep 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Typically, all selected bred animals are "genetically" modified.

From what I know of the technology, this is not a first science-wise and likely not marketing-wise. What they are doing mostly using well-established procedures more carefully using the feedback from new micro-measuring tools. Much of the science has to do to larger databases and faster processing more than anything, although it would be hard get anyone to admit that. It's not very sexy.
[abcnews.go.com...]

So, I'm impressed with the big jump in the change in the IQ of the salmon. The salmon are going before the FDA? Well, I can image what position they are going to take.

jecasc

9:05 pm on Sep 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Grow full size in half the time... Wonder what will happen if some of those somehow find their way into the open sea - and they will, thats for sure since salmon are usually kept in sea cages.

caribguy

10:11 pm on Sep 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Ecosystems change, won't be the first or the last time. I guess the effects will resemble those of introducing rainbow trout to new habitats.

OTOH, we're now seeing non-indigenous lionfish in our reefs. Restaurant owners are about to start putting those on their menus. Lemons > lemonade.

ron15

4:42 am on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Messing with mother nature is evil.

Lets see what side of the money the FDA is on.

buckworks

5:37 am on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Messing with mother nature is evil.


Then every one of us is evil, as civilization would not exist if people didn't mess with nature in one way or another.

The tricky part is deciding where the messing should stop. What things should be taboo, and why?

bwnbwn

1:32 pm on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Own a dog? Just about every breed has been modified to fit a need for man. Eat chicken, meat, bread, beans, potatoes and own all have been modified to yeild higher per acre and reduce diseases.

I am all for producing more pen raised food to reduce the strain on our wild supply. Our oceans are running out of food we have depleted our food supply and without more of this we as humans are doomed.

The real battle is soon to be water think oil is valuable doesn't compare to the one looming over water.

Rugles

6:15 pm on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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The real battle is soon to be water


Something us Canadians have been worried about for a very long time because we have more fresh water than anyone else. We fear people stealing it, people selling it without the proper precautions and worry about becoming a target for takeover.

LifeinAsia

6:24 pm on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Don't worry- we (the U.S.) will protect you. <*evil grin*>

We'll just take a "small" amount of water as payment for those years of protection of your southern border.

jecasc

6:43 pm on Sep 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Ecosystems change, won't be the first or the last time. I guess the effects will resemble those of introducing rainbow trout to new habitats.

Or Cane toads in Australia. Can't believe people there complaining about those cute little toadies. Especially since you can make cute little purses out of them. And when people put the nile perch into the Victoria lake which led to the extermination of dozens of other fish species - come on. One fish tastes like another. Who needs more than one species of fish in one lake.

bwnbwn

6:52 pm on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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jecasc I just watched a program on
nile perch into the Victoria lake
What was so intresting is that the nile perch has so populated the lake that it supports food for 100's of thousands of people. An industry processing them has been developed to support the growing demand that one has to wonder if this wasn't done what would these people be doing for food.

I am not saying it was good or bad just the fact that since this was done what has come from their intoduction.

The Asain Carp that have now taken over the Mississippi will one day turn into an industry. I do believe fertilizer or protein for dog, cat, cattle feed something. If you don't know what I am talking about watch this.
[videos.howstuffworks.com...]

Rugles

9:09 pm on Sep 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Those Asian Carp getting into the Great Lakes would be a massive disaster. Lets hope it never happens.

Don't worry- we (the U.S.) will protect you. <*evil grin*>


Well, I wasn't going to point any fingers. But this is what we are worried about ;-) .

enigma1

1:47 pm on Sep 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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The tricky part is deciding where the messing should stop.

What tricky part? Wild salmon is good for your health, farmed salmon is bad for your health. Nothing changed thus far. Maybe the new farmed technology will be 2 x bad.

LifeinAsia

3:42 pm on Sep 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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farmed salmon is bad for your health

That's a bit extreme. The levels of chemicals are generally higher than wild, but not excessively "bad" for you unless you're eating it every day or if you're pregnant. A Mig Mac is probably more likely to kill you than a farmed salmon fillet. :)

enigma1

5:12 pm on Sep 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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unless you're eating it every day

And that's what is happening for the most part. The one day you have farmed salmon and the next day the mac and so forth. Something "bad" ain't going to happen overnight but over time things build up.

There is a recent document in the usda mentioning about an ongoing research
[ars.usda.gov...]
However that's the theory how things should happen when implemented things are different, for example:
[ewg.org...]
So what the OP mentions with the original article is typically what happens when we ignore certain things about nature because we don't understand them. I don't see why this is extreme, but feel free to take chances.