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Getting Rid Of One Forced Induction Car

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lawman

12:20 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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BMW 335i will be put up for sale. Will be replacing it with one that looks like THIS [mustangattitude.com].

2010 Model with 540 hp. First mods will be a tune and upgraded heat exchanger. :)

mack

12:42 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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That's one mean looking machine. What power gains you looking to acheive with the mods?

What level can you take the mods to before you make the warranty void?

Mack.

lawman

12:48 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Power gains limited only by money.

Doubt the heat exchanger would void a warranty. Have no doubt a tune would do it. :)

A broke Ford is cheaper to fix than a broke BMW. :)

mack

3:14 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Car companies are pretty strict about what can be done, heres a messed up example. Mitsubishi evolution X has launch control, but if you use it, no warranty :)

Most evo owners would think i'm crazy, pointing out the car doesnt have it, it does. It's burried several pages deep on the cars touch screen settings panel. and never mentioned in the manual, or any other documentation.

Its only there because it needs to be on the road car, if Mitsubishi want to use launch tontrol in the world rally championship, the feature needs to be on the road car.

Back to the Shelby, just think...

Lightened and ballenced flywheel, low compression pistons, high lift cams, high flow air filter, non resinated exhaust, high presure fuel pump and upgraded injectors then get it all mapped. Might need to upgrade the clutch to handle the torque, and fit brakes the size of a small planet lol.

The above would be a lot of peoples dream, but probably grounds for divorce.

When you getting it, and what color you going with?

Mack.

lawman

7:14 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Just placed the order. Will be a few weeks before I get it. Black with satin-black stripes (see link in first post).

mack

7:29 am on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yea it looks awesome, checked some youtube videos as well. A very nice car!

Mack.

swa66

3:13 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I know you do drag racing (straight line only), but the beamer could take a corner too. The very first thing to do is to upgrade suspension and brakes. Esp. the rear end is abominable.
Adding even more horsepower without doing that first feels irresponsible to drive anything but a in straight line on a closed track (and even then).

Due to that, at least a stage 2 Roush would probably be my choice over the Shelby (although the looks of the Shelby is awesome).
Search for "top gear" Roush vs Shelby on your fav. video distribution website and see for yourself how the Shelby smokes its tires in a corner trying to keep up with the less powerful Roush.

lawman

3:47 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The 335i is an amazing car. I had it tuned - smoked my share of unmodified Shelbys at the track. Can't believe I'm getting rid of it. I just want something a little more brutal. For about $800 this thing can put down 540 hp at the rear wheels. Just have to figure out how to hook up. :)

If you're referring to the old top gear video, I saw it. I suspect it might turn out different with a 2010 Shelby.

mack

4:11 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Topgear is great, but I don't think they will ever do a fair review of a US car. The car culture USA/EU is almost as wide as the Atlantic itself. In the US its raw power, here its refinement through electronics to get good power from a smaller engine. Japanese cars take it to a whole new level with more computing power than a Google datacenter required to make them work. At the end of the day whos right and who's wrong. Nobody, they all do the same thing.

Going back to topgear, there was one review of US cars that actualy reflected them very well. I think it was titled road trip USA. Corvette, Cadillac, Charger from sanfran to the salt lakes.

I think you need to be in the US to appreciate an American muscle car, that's what it was built for.

I would like to take a Mustang or a Corvette for a blast for the experience, but I don't think I could live with it. Remember petrol is just under $8 a gallon here as it stands it costs me $140 to fill my 1.8 Audi.

Mack.

creative craig

4:19 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Remember petrol is just under $8 a gallon here as it stands it costs me $140 to fill my 1.8 Audi.

It costs about 30 pounds to fill my 3.7 Jeep in South Africa which I think is about $50

bwnbwn

9:07 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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lawman has become "outlawman" man that is a nice ride. How about dragging it to vegas next year and take us for a spin....>

lawman

10:46 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Would the airlines charge extra for that? :)

swa66

11:51 pm on Oct 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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it might turn out different with a 2010 Shelby.

I've driven normal mustangs and a Shelby (all rental), but indeed none a 2010 model. Still, I felt the suspension does not belong on a sports car. I've also driven Porsches, BMWs, Audis etc out here ... so I have some comparison material.

It didn't feel like a car you had under control, in fact it felt floating, disconnected from the road (powerful yes: loads of that, but confident: not at all). Reminded me of a Vectra I once had as company car: that one would "float" too at high speed. A very scary experience at high speed.

I do hope they seriously fixed the 2010 Shelby car, cause I'm sure a former Le Mans winner knows the difference between a suspension and whatever excuse Ford used in past years, regardless of his age now.

Now the good thing about a Mustang is that it is more a lego basic box that you can swap parts in and out easily. The rules in the US add to that: you can modify it and still be road legal (which you'd loose out here in an eyeblink: the law out here hates modified cars).

swa66

12:11 am on Oct 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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As far as that top gear thing with the Roush vs the Shelby: they took the Roush on with a Lotus: the little car (1.8 liter 4 cil engine) passed the Rouch on the track in one lap. The Roush was quicker off the line, but the advantage was gone from corner #1. Granted the little lotus was driven by the Stig and I don't know the driver of the Roush.

But both the Roush and the Shelby are fully American ... both expand upon the basic Mustang. And both give it more horsepower. There's no US vs the rest in there.

rocker

1:53 am on Oct 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Would the airlines charge extra for that? :)

With 540 hp you don't need a jet :)

BTW Nice choice.

lawman

4:04 am on Oct 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Article from Edmunds [edmunds.com]

HERE'S [insideline.com] another Edmunds article. A stock Shelby on 91 octane(RON+MON/2) against a tricked out Camaro running race gas.

rj87uk

5:16 pm on Oct 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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lawman, How much is that costing? It looks sweet. I wouldn't mind driving around in that in the UK. My 350z looks rubbish next to that beast!

lawman

6:00 pm on Oct 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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$1750 below msrp so about $46,950 USD (plus 7% sales tax).

lawman

7:11 pm on Nov 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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BMW is sold. Now driving around in a 2003 Ford Explorer until Shelby gets here.

mack

9:38 pm on Nov 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hope you didn't try the "one careful owner" sales pitch. Or at least remove all traces of boot polish hehe.

Mack.

henry0

1:07 pm on Nov 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm sure a former Le Mans winner knows the difference between a suspension and whatever excuse Ford used in past years

Who's that person, a WebmasterWorld mod?
Guess I am not reading it "loud and clear"!

swa66

2:10 am on Nov 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was referring to "Carroll Shelby", not related to WebmasterWorld, but the former racing driver behind the "Cobra" brand.

Read more: [carrollshelby.com...]

henry0

10:11 am on Nov 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Now I understand,
Ahhh, "la ligne droite des hunaudieres" been there a few times. (24H du Mans)

lawman

12:53 pm on Nov 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Any car, even one with a live rear axle, can be set up to handle well either in a straight line or in the twisties. A street car set up is a compromise. A serious racer has to spend money on after-market parts to make the car handle the way he wants.

Most, like I, are occasional racers who want their cars to be streetable and are willing to tolerate the compromise.