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I Still Can't Imagine Buying A Hyundai

and now they're close to producing a $50k luxury car

         

lawman

12:47 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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"Our challenge is to make sure it doesn't become the next VW Phaeton," Krafcik notes. Keeping the price under $60,000 seems to be a key to achieving that goal.

Inside Line [edmunds.com]

Swanny007

3:54 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hyundai doesn't make garbage anymore. I'd buy a Hyundai. Hell, they're producing better cars than the domestic car companies. Seriously.

I like the new Genesis Coupe. Sweet...

graeme_p

4:46 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have Hyundai. It is no worse than equivalent Japanese cars (which is what I have had before).

Marcia

5:32 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I didn't see anything in the article about gas mileage (maybe I missed it). I have to say, though, that I've had occasion to ride in one of those new Toyota hybrids several times, and if I were to buy a new car, that's the one I'd be lusting over.

I can't off-hand remember the mileage I was told they get, but it was quite impressive (and "green"), and purred like a kitten during the ride.

sem4u

8:16 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm going to stick with my BMW convertible for now. I can't really see myself buying a Hyundai, but the coupe they have isn't that bad. We always chat about cars in the office...like how good Skodas are these days...but still no-one here has bought one! :)

swa66

9:34 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Positioning this car as an "S-Class Fighter" is BS. It might look like a one from the outside and even the inside with wood and electronics, but it's nowhere near the next-generation engineering that goes in every generation of a Mercedes S-class.

An S-class is really a different breed of car: it's an engineers car, and a jewel of luxury at the same time. It might not appeal to one (I wouldn't want to own one), but disregarding what makes it special, now that should not be done.

Lexur

10:12 am on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Psss... I can't speak about cars too loud. My father-in-law owns a Hiunday and mine is a 6Cil/204Hp C-Class so my public position about this must be "All cars are equal these days" :)

Swanny007

11:09 pm on Jul 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hey Marcia, I bought a new Prius last year. I have no regrets, I still enjoy the car even though the "better" 2010 model is out now. It gets amazing mileage... I don't care what gas prices are. Low, high, it makes no difference.

grandpa

3:00 am on Jul 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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and purred like a kitten

You could never say that about a muscle car.

lawman

9:15 am on Jul 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What defines a muscle car? On a really good day my car will do 12.5 in the quarter mile. No loud exhaust, no wild cam, it just purrs like a kitten around town.

swa66

11:52 pm on Jul 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Our stock little sports car that my wife uses as a daily driver can do a low 13 sec 1/4 mile (Never put it on a track, just looked up what its siblings can do on the Internet. Stock figures, tuned ones go way faster). Ours does have a launch control mode and I'm not sure those tests are done with or without that.

Yet I'd not consider it a muscle car by any standard.

It however does purr quite nicely, so much as to get attention at gas stations and the car-wash. Nearly every time I take it out, and stop for gas or go to the car-wash with it, some guy wants to talk about the car to me (makes one wonder what happens if the wife stops for fuel ... ).

Fuel economy: now that's not the right thing to ask about such a car, but it's very good compared to any true muscle car I've read about. But then the whole idea of a car like a Toyota Prius being fuel economic really needs to be checked against e.g. a VW blue motion as that latter needs far less fuel for the same distance (just not marketed in the USA).

grandpa

2:50 am on Jul 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What defines a muscle car?

What I had in mind is described in that wiki place... you know the one.

Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high performance automobiles. At its most widely accepted the term refers to American 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size cars of the late 1960s and early 1970s equipped with large, powerful V8s and sold at an affordable price for street use and drag racing, formally and informally. Wikipedia [en.wikipedia.org]

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JS_Harris

7:51 am on Jul 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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aka a 1969 Chevy Camaro SS!

The term Muscle Cars gets a bad rap these days from any non car lover imo. You're not going to find many unrestored 1969 chevy engines in people's daily driver and many of the remaining 69's have new or crate engines in them, not worn out old clunker engines.

Just saying, the term Muscle Car doesn't mean horrible on the environment anymore. What's under the hood is most likely much newer and well maintained. 40 years later the original stuff tends to be worn out :-)

edit: forgot the topic for a moment, lost in dreamland. I can buy a 1969 Camaro SS with new engine and performance parts for much less than 50k. The car I want with the features I want isn't found on any new car dealer lot for the price I want it seems.