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Slowly going mad.

Is it my hardware? Is it me?

         

bhonda

3:17 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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This is a pure rant.

I'm only interested in responses that agree with me. Comments like 'don't worry about it' or 'you're wrong' are not welcome. Not welcome at all.

Hehe.

Seriously, I think I'm slowly going mad.

I'm a .NET developer at heart, playing around with databases, web services, PhotoShop...a good chunk of the online development world.

I've been doing this for a while now, and although I absolutely love it, these last few weeks have been a nightmare.

All because of my laptop.

It all started a couple of months ago, when it started...my laptop would just...hesitate before doing something. Not all the time, though. Just occasionally. Now, it's horrible. I'll be working fine for a couple of hours, then I'll try to open a file, or something quite menial, and it'll stop. I can still move my mouse. I can still use anything else that's already open. But I can't do anything else that's new. Processor's not doing anything, it'll be running at 4% CPU (ish).

It just waits.

Then, 4-5 minutes later, it'll all just start working again.

Happy as Larry.

For another half an hour or so, and it'll happen all over again.

Now, normally I'd just blame the hardware. But this is quite a new [albeit work's] laptop. Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz, 2gb RAM, Win XP.

It's not overheating. I've not got excessive amounts of stuff open. And I'm not just being impatient (well...not too impatient).

It is just me? The IT guru here has done spyware scans, virus scans, and all that. Everything is updated and the latest version.

Now, the reason for this:

Ladies and gentlemen, what should I do? Spend a day reinstalling Windows from scratch? Try to convince work to get me a new laptop? Jack it all in and become a farmer?

Seriously, am I trying to push this laptop too hard? At any one time, I can be running up to 4 instances of Visual Studio 2005, a SQL Server 2005 database, a few Excel documents, the odd Word document, a few FireFox tabs, Outlook, maybe even PhotoShop...

Yeah...I'm pushing it too hard, aren't I?

janharders

3:22 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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>Jack it all in and become a farmer?

best plan, imho. those are the situations when I say to myself "you should've got some real education, not this IT-crap".

have you checked for driver updates? I wouldn't jump to hardware-suspects just yet. Check the grafic adapter's drivers, I remember context menus taking forever on my machine when I had a driver issue with my nvidia.
The workload sounds normal to me, I'm a process messie, so that's pretty much the same I usually run and it works like a charm on a similar machine (not a laptop, though).
You're right to be annoyed!

londrum

3:26 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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you are looking for the obvious answers. but maybe it is time itself that is stopping. and you are moving around in another dimension.

bhonda

3:35 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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> you are moving around in another dimension

You know, you might have something there. Maybe I've simply become so efficient, that I'm now quicker than time itself.

Man...that's going on my CV...

kaled

3:44 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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>normally I'd just blame the hardware.

Hardware (excluding cd/dvd drives) is at least 100 times as reliable as software.

Since it's a work laptop, if they have an IT expert, give it to him and say "fix it". Otherwise it's most likely poor quality, conflicting or badly configured security software. Uninstall/disable each item and retest. If that's too much like hard work, as you said, reinstall windows, but the same problem may reappear.

Kaled.

LifeinAsia

4:18 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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normally I'd just blame the hardware

Other possible scapegoats include:
* sun spots
* Coriolis forces
* butterflies in China

Shaddows

4:40 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Serious question- have you checked the hard-drive. Sounds like a bottle-neck there. Could be bad sectors, or could be a problem talking to the drive.

Otherwise, security would be my next bet. (Especially where some corporate idiot has two separate anti-malware programs running)

weeks

4:44 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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When you open the file and it pauses, is the application running already? If you remember, way back in the day, we were told that it was "better" to open the app and then the file.

weeks

4:46 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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two separate anti-malware programs running

Yeah, or something like that.

rocknbil

5:40 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Two immediate things come to mind.

Are you on an Internet or network connection any time while this happens? The way windows polls and waits for network responses sometimes hangs things up. (Sorry for the newbish explanation, I know the effect, not the specific causes.)

For example, we're networked here via router, sharing Internet, when I close down one comp the other will hesitate because it's checking where the first computer's shared directory/printer went.

The other, what's the status/setup of automatic updates and AVG scans? I set mine for 3 AM, leave comps on at night, but even so when I hit it at 6 AM to get started, sometimes the AVG is still scanning. Automatic updates can snag you if you don't turn the alerts on.

The only other thing I can offer is don't do anything that needs to be done immediately. If you attempt this, it will hang every time. It senses your urgency. :-)

[edited by: rocknbil at 5:41 pm (utc) on May 5, 2009]

swa66

5:40 pm on May 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'd blame the software and/or the hardware,

Software: reinstal. But reinstall something else, not the same old stuff. Try something else: *BSD (NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, ...), Linux, OS X, ...

Hardware: get a mac :) [seriously: my mac is good for my mental stability]

Assistua Admin

1:22 am on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)



Hi there, bhonda.

For me, it seems that you may have several hardware and/or software problems and conflicts.

Let's start with the software ones, but connected to hardware. Heating. Running too much software on a laptop may heat it too much. And of course a laptop is not like a desktop or a tower on "unheating", there's to say, dissipating hot.

1-) The very beginning. This will correct any possible Windows conflicts and errors.
1a-) Insert the CD of XP on the drive.
1b-) Write on the execution box:
sfc /scannow
(note the space between sfc and /

2-) Get a freeware program to control the heating, there's to say, to control fans and so.

3-) Get a cooler basis specially for laptops. Some come wven with two or three extra usb ports (ing general USB 1.2, but what the heck, you may connect the mouse or an extra keyboard to them, stuff not too much demanding).

4-) If you add, move, delete, big files often, your HDU becomes too much fragmented. Get a freeware defragger, there are a few that run in the background and do not disturb you at all, eg O&O Defrag or Smart Defrag.

5-) Virtual memory. The best and fastest HDU will NEVER be able to replace the eakest "real" RAM. So if you are using a too high virtual memory value, decrease it.

5a-) Get CCleaner (a free fine trash and junk trash) and run it often.

5b-) Too much trash files on your laptop startup. These junk programs often steal a big amount of memory. Use CCleaner to check what starts running with XP when your lapotop starts. Deny (to not run on startup) one by one. DO NOT DELETE ANY!, restart and check if your problems are solved.

6-) A Registry cleaning. There are a few tools that clean the registry from junk, trash, and so, and also defrag it. One is CCleaner. The other one is Tune Up Utilities 2009 (wonderful shareware i use since its version 2005).

7a-) Install Tune Up Utilities and set all for fastest performance. Besides, Tune Up has a fine memory controller that is always checking it.
7b-) Forget deskmods, and any other kinda "whistles & bells".

NOW, the hardware issue.

1a-) Memory problems? Get a freeware to check your memory in deep.
1b-) A (possible) memory upgrade.

2-) The overheating issue already referred.

3-) And the HDU defragmention, also already referred.

If, after this, your laptop is still running strangely, it's possessed or so! Get rid of it!

Good luck! :)

kaled

1:38 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's unlikely to be an overheating problem, nor a shortage of memory, or any kind of hard disk problem and registry cleaning is mostly a waste of time and money.

If you haven't done so already, and you have a restore point to a known working configuration available, you could try that. That said, swapping components around (with other computers) is always a good idea when trying to diagnose faults.

Kaled.

Shaddows

4:18 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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That said, swapping components around (with other computers)...

Awww, and I thought I would try putting the RAM where the CPU goes :p

Though I still stand by the HDD problem. Hard disks are so often the problem on slow load times, particularly at start-up and if you have them spin down after too short a period of non-use for power saving reasons.

[edited by: Shaddows at 4:40 pm (utc) on May 6, 2009]

sgietz

5:15 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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On the way to your new job on the farm, stop the car by a pasture, put your laptop on the ground and beat the crap out of it. Kick, it, punch it, throw it, light it on fire ... mix the ashes in with gunpowder and blow the whole thing to smithereens.

Sometimes I feel like doing that to various items around the office. Perhaps I need help.

tangor

5:31 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Laptop? We don't use no steekin' laptops!

kaled

8:14 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm going mad as well... when I read Assistua's comments, I thought I was in another thread (about a mouse problem) so apologies to everyone concerned, please disregard my post above!

In my defence, I think it's only the second time I've done that in 3000+ posts.

Kaled.

g1smd

11:24 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Is this with Vista? I get this; the machine just becomes unresponsive. Mostly no web pages can be opened; it's like the firewall is blocking it, but not so much that any error message is going to appear in my lifetime. Other times it takes more than a minute just to open some tiny text file with WordPad. Driving me nuts too, it is.

dcheney

11:48 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if you are seeing the GDI bottleneck refered to in this article [blogs.msdn.com]

tangor

11:59 pm on May 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was going with the "we don't need no steekin' Wordpad" and decided I better not. Use it frequently! Do have to ask if anyone has loaded Windows Search 4... can cause a minor bit of slowdown on less than robust systems. See: [webmasterworld.com...]

rocker

1:11 am on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Try hanging a string of garlic on the screen. That should ward off any evil spirits.

CWebguy

1:34 am on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I suggest taking the red pill :)

piatkow

10:06 am on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Didn't you know that all laptops and PCs contain a special chip designed to generate paranoia?
The ones on my office PC and home laptop both work perfectly.

ytswy

10:09 am on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I would recommend the intimidation/object lesson method:

Get an older computer of the same type and a large lump hammer and place them where your current machine can see them.

Smarter computers will get the message and start behaving. However if yours doesn't fall into line then, next time it plays up, take the hammer and smash the old machine to pieces.

Once you have rendered it into small pieces of smashed plastic and silicone, fix your laptop with a meaningful stare and tell it in no uncertain terms that it is next if it messes you around again. Problem solved!

More seriously, if it is a hardware fault then I'ld look at the hard drive first.

grandpa

2:04 pm on May 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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.. large lump hammer and place them where your current machine can see them

There is much truth in that statement. All I need do is approach a wayward appliance with a screwdriver and it will suddenly begin performing like new. Works almost every time. I have one laptop that didn't understand and it is in a hundred pieces now.

If all else fails, I still have one plot available in the community garden. You may want to consider it for a year, just to develop your farming skills.

tangor

11:51 am on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have a laptop... a nice one. Too many dollars spent. Was zapped by electricity from the skies, a lightning strike. Fried the network. Fried the battery. Fried the ability to host a battery. Fried the PICMA (or whatever that is called meaning (I can't use a wireless card). Is 15.4 inch cool vid and "reasonable" audio. Not its fault it was fried. Works just enough to keep me after it (data already migrated via the DVD writer which still works) but is just this close to a golden shower because I can't connect it, even via parallel or serial port. Runs only plugged in. This, of course, is a tad extreme as regards the OP discussed above. Do know I feel, but I am also feeling a bit extreme as to what I will do with this $1600 boat anchor.

londrum

1:54 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

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eventually computers will become so powerful that they will have the same processing power as human brains. and then it is just a matter of time before they become conscious of their own surroundings and succumb to the same stuff that we do -- laziness and daydreams.

maybe that explains your situation.

tangor

1:53 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Most human brains operate at 8kb (sic) capacity though the data storage is significantly larger. I miss my XT. :)