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Google/YouTube - tighten up!

         

engine

3:46 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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As an adult, I can make informed decisions, but having recently viewed a business-related video on youtube, I was angered when the related videos show adult images.
If I can see it, kids can too!

Tighten up your adult spam filters Google/YouTube!

</rant over>

BeeDeeDubbleU

5:47 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Don't do evil.

Hawkgirl

5:55 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. My daughter is only 15 months old, and I can only imagine what surprises the various communications evolutions that will happen before her teen years.

As things are right now, she'll never have access to *anything* when she's unsupervised. We're going to have to track her via satellite using the implant she'll get - and will download all sights/sounds and screen her daily life to make sure she's not getting into things she shouldn't!

Old_Honky

6:50 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Wouldn't it be easier to just store her in the matrix and make up a "pixel perfect" life for her which you can digitally edit and erase everything that you don't like on the fly. :~)

Censorship is a slippery slope - what one person may be horrified by as "adult content" is just harmless fun to others. In Europe we tend to be a bit more laid back about that sort of thing and are often surprised by the adverse reaction from Americans. Take for instance the famous Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction" at the super bowl - to me that was pretty tame harmless stuff. A bit sad and obviously staged to try and revitalise a sagging career (sagging being the operative word unfortunately). I was amazed by the reaction in the states, most UK children see far worse than that every time they go to the beach.

In my opinion it is better to let your kids see this sort of thing in a supervised environment and not make a big thing about it. Then perhaps they will grow up thinking "so what!" rather than thinking "I'm not allowed to see this so it must be good".

Rugles

8:34 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I was amazed by the reaction in the states, most UK children see far worse than that every time they go to the beach.

or open a newspaper

i don't think we want to start a whole political debate here, TOS

Hawkgirl

3:18 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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"I'm not allowed to see this so it must be good".

Or how about, "I don't have the frontal lobe brain development or ability to reason in order to make good decisions yet, so it's a good thing my parents are shepherding me through my childhood."

Censorship is a slippery slope

I'm not talking about censorship. I'm taking about parenting. :)

Marcia

6:27 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I think it's called "responsible parenting." :)

Incidentally, there's a very benign word triggering adult videos playing with some Spring religious holiday videos. Yes, they do need to update and tighten up on filtered words.

Added:

Censorship is a slippery slope - what one person may be horrified by as "adult content" is just harmless fun to others.

How about relevancy for users? What in the world does a Passover video have to do with a video with humungous boooooobs hanging out?

[edited by: Marcia at 6:30 am (utc) on Mar. 28, 2008]

camellais

7:34 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Such images appear anywhere. people shall do something for the kids and the future.

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:09 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Censorship is on a slippery slope.

and

In my opinion it is better to let your kids see this sort of thing in a supervised environment and not make a big thing about it.

Why?

Janet Jackson's boob is not the problem here. The problem is the thousands of evil people who deliberately target children through the Internet or who send out porn knowing full well that much of it is going to arrive in kid's email boxes.

IMHO censorship is on a slippery slope but it's sliding the wrong way.

lawman

11:03 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Censorship is a slippery slope - what one person may be horrified by as "adult content" is just harmless fun to others. In Europe we tend to be a bit more laid back about that sort of thing and are often surprised by the adverse reaction from Americans. Take for instance the famous Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction" at the super bowl - to me that was pretty tame harmless stuff. A bit sad and obviously staged to try and revitalise a sagging career (sagging being the operative word unfortunately). I was amazed by the reaction in the states, most UK children see far worse than that every time they go to the beach.

It's all a matter of expectations.

BTW, the starter of this thread is not from the US of A. :)

Old_Honky

1:36 pm on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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BTW, the starter of this thread is not from the US of A. :)

I didn't assume that, and I'm not anti USA, or even saying that the views given are wrong. It's just my take on things. My son is now 30 and is a well balanced mature individual with a very positive outlook on life. OK when he was very young I was probably as protective towards him as most parents are (although the internet was not available in those days so I didn't have to make any decisions about whether to censor or not censor his surfing). As he grew up though I deliberately did not insulate him from some of the things that most of us would find distasteful, I didn't deliberately expose him to questionable stuff but if he asked me about it I didn't make a big deal about it.

That worked for me, but I understand that it might not work for others.

lawman

9:57 pm on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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One of the things it has taken me 50+ years to learn is that if my expectations are met, life continues uneventfully to the next expectation. If expectations are not met, I'm probably going to be, at the least, mildly upset. If expectations are exceeded it might be party time.

I'm neither knocking nor applauding your views on life or child rearing. Simply stating that no one expected to see the nasty Ms. Jackson's tatas during Superbowl halftime. It appears engine didn't expect to see certain videos when he was searching for others.

Now, I've had a real long day at the office. The family is out of town. I'm gonna take a nap. Just to let you know, I expect my wife to call to check up on me just about the time I fall asleep. :)

Wait a minute. Wife just called. I'm expecting a full nap.

engine

1:37 am on Mar 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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ROTFL
Nice one Lawman!

Back OT - my point is that Youtube/Google's system was letting through irrelevent and inappropriate content. There was no connection between what I was watching and what was being displayed in the related videos, no matter the actual subject.
Kids could have seen that, without searching for it, unsupervised or not. Think about it, who knows what it could have shown!

The spammers were having a field day!

My subject title still stands.

BeeDeeDubbleU

10:15 am on Mar 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Kids could have seen that, without searching for it, unsupervised or not.

Do you think that Google really cares about this? I think that the pursuit of profit is pushing issues like this down their agenda but then that's capitalism.

(Am I getting too political?)

engine

10:47 am on Mar 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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>Do you think that Google really cares about this?

If they don't care, it's up to individuals to make their views known, and to act as they see fit: Vote with your feet, don't buy, don't click, etc., it's up to you.
I believe they do care.

Hawkgirl

10:52 pm on Mar 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Engine, you're spot on. That's why I said earlier, "As things are right now, she'll never have access to *anything* when she's unsupervised." Meaning - they'll be losing one short customer and one tall(er) one.

They'll care when they're losing more money than they're making.