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Out of Hours Enquiries

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BeeDeeDubbleU

8:30 pm on Dec 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As a home worker I made the mistake when I started of not getting a dedicated business telephone line.

Almost all of my enquiries are generated through my website. My contacts page clearly states that people should only call during normal office hours but they persist in doing so at the strangest times. I got a call tonight (Sunday) at 7pm! A week or two ago I got a call at 10.40pm. My wife and I got a real fright, thinking something was wrong with the family.

I appreciate that this was partly my fault for not having a dedicated business line but what in the name of "whatever" inspires people to make business calls at such unearthly times?

Does anyone else have this problem?

vincevincevince

8:39 pm on Dec 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I've solved this in three ways in the past:
1) Using a non-geographic telephone number provider (£9.99 one-off fee) which comes bundled with time-of-day routing
2) Unplugging the line!
3) Using skype in for business calls (can be turned off, includes voicemail)

rocknbil

9:36 pm on Dec 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You may think I'm shooting myself in the foot . . . but it's worked for me so far.

I cannot stand trivial interruptions. I work in continuous manic bursts for hours on end. In addition we get hundreds of phone solicitations every month. So . . . I never directly answer the phone. I let the machine pick it up.

The phone is **intentionally** in another room from where I work. I never answer it. If someone important calls, I return the call immediately. None of my customers are put off by this and completely understand. In fact they are more appreciative of my immediate call back than anything.

It can be argued, "Well, if I call someone and they don't pick up the phone, I certainly won't be doing business with THEM!" At the risk of sounding egotistical (guilty as charged,) someone with this mind set is going to be a pain in the butt customer, I don't care how much money they have. I don't need their business.

wheel

1:45 am on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Where I am, it's like $5 a month for a seperate 'double ring'. Get one of those. Or just pay for a seperate phone line, these days a second phone line at a residence is likely to be dirt cheap.

Then just put that second line on one phone in whatever you're using as an office. During off hours, turn that phone off.

People call at weird hours sometimes just because they only want to leave a message and not speak to someone. I've no idea why that is.

FWIW, I have a relatively busy home office phone wise. I keep a seperate phone line(s). Otherwise I'm mixing my answering machine with my business, and I don't think that's good. Or I get kids answering - and so on.

However, I'm of the opinion that customer service is a priority. While I do place restrictions on when I feel obligated to answer the phone, there's plenty of times in the evening or weekend when I'm working anyway that I'll answer the phone or email. People appreciate it.

It can be argued, "Well, if I call someone and they don't pick up the phone, I certainly won't be doing business with THEM!" At the risk of sounding egotistical (guilty as charged,) someone with this mind set is going to be a pain in the butt customer, I don't care how much money they have. I don't need their business.

Everyone's different. But business is a two way street - it's got to work for both vendor and customer. My time is valuable too - when I'm working with someone I actually expect them to pick up the phone when I call. Otherwise, it's all about them, and I prefer not to do business that way.

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:43 am on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My time is valuable too - when I'm working with someone I actually expect them to pick up the phone when I call.

Yes, but would you make a business call at 10.40pm? My point is that I just would not consider calling anyone at that time of night. What makes people do it?

sem4u

9:47 am on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You could put the phone number on your site as a graphic, then use a script to make it show for only certain hours of the day. Just an idea that came into my head :)

Habtom

11:21 am on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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then use a script to make it show for only certain hours of the day.

This has a slight problem. Knowing customers, they write down the number, and call you whenever they get an idea or seek for an advice.

Long since i removed my phone number from the site, I still get phone calls from customers, and it doesn't seem very pleasing to wake up in the middle of the night for usually very small order.

The smaller the customer's potential the greater the noise :)

Old_Honky

12:15 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We aren't a web design company - we sell steam cleaners and ironing products. We have business premises so we don't get the problem of people phoning us at home. Sometimes I come into the office at the weekend to catch up on correspondence or do some mundane task like invoicing. It is amazing how many phone calls we get on a Sunday evening (from end users) asking questions or ordering accessories, and they aren't the slightest bit surprised that someone is there. We only deal with the UK and Ireland so it's not as though they are from another time zone, they really are phoning at 11:30 on a Sunday night to order a pack of microfibre pads for their steam mop!

Even large companies don't employ people 24 hours to answer these sort of calls so what is wrong with these people?

If no one is in, the voicemail catches most of them including one woman who left 4 messages, the last three of which were complaining that nobody returned her call, the last one was pretty abusive and contained language that I would not repeat in mixed company. When I phoned her on Tuesday (I made her wait a day as "punishment" for the foul language)she was a pleasant as could be and thanked me for getting back to her.

ytswy

1:48 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We sell products too and do a lot of business by phone. Answerphone goes on at 5pm dead, no ifs buts or maybes.

There's nothing worse than getting the call from hell right at the end of the day, and for some reason this seems to be prime time for nutters.

draggar

2:21 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but would you make a business call at 10.40pm?

10:40EST is 7:40PST and 7:40 isn't a bad time to call.

Heck, that's 6:40 and 5:40 Hawaii and Alaska times, too, both a very reasonable time to call.

Also, some people might not be able to call until then, or stumbled across your site at that time and expect to just leave a message. They might also be calling expecting to hear a message with your hours (people tend to never read this on a web site).

BeeDeeDubbleU

3:00 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes but I am in the UK where we are all on the same timezone and all my telephone enquiries are also from the UK.

HelenDev

4:28 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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would you make a business call at 10.40pm?

Not everyone works to conventional hours and they don't necessarily have the same concept of what is an appropriate time to call.

Also now that lots of businesses have 24 hour call centres it doesn't necessarily seem that odd to call at an unsociable hour. Some people probably just try calling on the offchance that maybe someone will be there or they can leave a message.

LifeinAsia

4:41 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm with rocknbil- our business line is basically for voicemail. We are an online business and have setup a number of methods for contacting us online, and e-mail is the preferred method for existing client relationships.

We've found that almost all phone calls fall into the following categories, none of which we want to waste time with on the phone:
1) wrong number or hangups
2) solicitations
3) questions that could be just as easily answered online
4) off-line people that are going to require a lot of hand holding

Yes, we probably lose a few customers this way. But we consider them acceptable losses and the gains (more productive time, focusing more on better clients) outweighs them.

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:20 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Also now that lots of businesses have 24 hour call centres it doesn't necessarily seem that odd to call at an unsociable hour.

Even when my website makes it quite clear that I am a freelancer and also tells them to call during business hours?

ytswy

6:40 pm on Dec 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Even when my website makes it quite clear that I am a freelancer and also tells them to call during business hours?

LOL, there is a certain subset of humanity who will read this and call you immediately just to make sure they understood it. There's a much larger group who simply refuse to read.

If I were you I'd separate the numbers, changing whichever is easier - I'd go insane very quickly if I got called at home by customers.

steve

7:41 pm on Dec 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We use Caller Line Identification and Panasonic DECT handsets which have two number libraries. Family and friends are in one library, business numbers in the other.

The phones produce a different bell tone based based on the library the number matches, or whether its unrecognised.

I think it's also possible to send unrecognised numbers straight to ansaphone without the phone ringing, but I haven't tried this yet.