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I just installed Office 2007 Ultimate

and it was a doddle!

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:52 am on Aug 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday I installed a copy of Office 2007 Ultimate. It have been lying on my desk for a week because I was dreading the upheaval of making the change. To my surprise it installed seamlessly in about 25 minutes and it looks great. Can anyone speed up the learning process by giving me a few tips on productivity?

Inscidentally for those who think you cannot get a bargain on eBay, I got this there for £121. This is the full, legal and official version, which is listed in Amazon UK at £512!

tim222

7:33 am on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Many years ago I bought Office 97 for a bargain on eBay. It turned out to be legit... sort of. It was an OEM version that was legally only supposed to be distrbuted with a new computer.

LifeinAsia

3:29 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It was an OEM version that was legally only supposed to be distrbuted with a new computer.

Um, so how do you define that as being legit? It's as much a violation of the User Agreement as making a copy from someone else.

Receptional

3:48 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)



Can anyone speed up the learning process by giving me a few tips on productivity

Not so much. There is a learning curve isn't there?

Since we are on the subject though, My 2007 Powerpoint presentations seem to "jump" unexpectedly when doing the slide show. I WAS blaming my laptop's video adapter, but last week I saw another presenter having the same proble.

Is it me? anyone else seeing it? Can I fix it?

bcolflesh

3:57 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Can I fix it?

It's a feature - why would you want to fix a feature, communist?

tim222

5:52 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's as much a violation of the User Agreement as making a copy from someone else.

The difference between the two is that under no circumstance would making a copy from someone else be legitimate. The OEM disk was (presumably) manufactured by Microsoft, and that's what I meant by "legit... sort of."

The disk was advertised as being legal, so I was disappointed when I got it. Of course I complained to eBay about it, but I have no idea whether or not they took any action. I doubt if they did.

justgowithit

7:33 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It took me two weeks to find spell checker in Word 07'.

tim222

7:38 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It took me two weeks to find spell checker in Word 07'.

It seems like since the beginning Spell Checker has been assigned to the F7 function key. Did they change it?

I think I'll stick with Office 2000 until it becomes so obsolete that even a printer won't accept a document.

LifeinAsia

9:40 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The difference between the two is that under no circumstance would making a copy from someone else be legitimate.

Just as under no circumstances would installing the OEM version on a different computer be legitimate. OEM S/W is not for retail, so paying money for it (regardless of whether or not it was advertised as legal) doesn't make it legal.

An analogy would be buying stolen diamonds from a fence who advertised them as legal. Advertising them as legal doesn't make them not stolen. And it doesn't absolve you from the participation in an illegal transaction.

I'm not trying to justify Microsoft's licensing agreement. Nor do I like it. But it is what it is. And trying to dance around it by calling it legit when it isn't doesn't change things.

tim222

10:22 pm on Aug 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Ah, semantecs. But you are correct, "legitimate" means "recognized as lawful."

OK, fine. Let me fix my post:

str_replace("legit", "genuine", $MyPost);

:)

Monkey

11:38 pm on Sep 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What's a good reason to like Office '07?

Sure - a couple of nice enhanced features - but the interface sucks for proficient users. Guess it is good for self starters.

What's the bet they bring back toolbars (or multiple ribbons that can be viewed at the same time) in 5 years time so that you have multiple sets of tools displayed at the same time?

encyclo

1:03 am on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What's a good reason to like Office '07?

What I would like to know is: what must-have features are there in Office 07 that weren't in Office 97 (or earlier)?

Marshall

5:51 am on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just a heads up for those who do not know - PowerPoint 2007 [b]is not[/i] backwards compatible. However, you can download a free viewer at [microsoft.com...] There are a few other free downloads dealing with backward compatibility. Check MS's site for more info.

Marshall

Habtom

5:57 am on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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what must-have features are there in Office 07 that weren't in Office 97 (or earlier)?

The zero. ;)

Honestly, the most important features arrived with Office 97 and the ones prior to that. What indeed has come after that is the money making features and quite a few bag of bugs :)

[edited by: Habtom at 6:54 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2007]

Monkey

5:40 pm on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes - to Office 97 - except in Excel, calculation wise was dodgey. This has now been corrected in Excel 2003.

As for 2007, I hear the church bells.....and M'soft forcing us to use SharePoint in order to share info.....how about using Google's spreadsheet and word processor instead if info needs to be shared?

Okay Excel 2007 - improved:
a) conditional formatting;
b) spreadsheet capacity (one customer went over to it just for;
c) sort;
d) pivot tables

Access 2007 - improved facilities for macro development if you have no clue about VBA; and a couple of cool controls have been added

The rest of the Office suite.....welllllllllll.........

encyclo

5:55 pm on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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except in Excel, calculation wise was dodgey. This has now been corrected in Excel 2003.

Ouch - sounds more like the $650 price-tag is for little more than a few bug-fixes! From my experience, most users don't use more than 5% of the features, and as long as the bold and colored text works in Word and their powerpoint presentations show up, then the rest is bloat. It's not a surprise that MS has gone for yet another incompatible file-format change, it's the only thing that will push users back onto the upgrade treadmill.

I use OpenOffice mostly (on Linux), MS Office is hugely overpriced for most users' needs.

Receptional Andy

6:35 pm on Sep 3, 2007 (gmt 0)



I've surprised myself by being a big fan of Office 2007 - I'm glad they took the plunge with the new UI, which, to my mind, is far more intuitive than the previous version once you get the hang of it.

The new excel seems to have quite a few features that either weren't present or I never found in the old one (from 'remove duplicates' to multiple linear regression).

The thing that took me the longest was working out where the file menu had got to (into the round button-y thing in the top left, but I didn't realise that was clickable for some time ;))

A good tip for many of the new office apps is to hold down alt and get the old-school menus back (doesn't work in excel).