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Babies and the workplace

         

vincevincevince

9:33 am on Apr 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm currently married with no kids and work at home most of the time, my wife works off-site elsewhere. In the not-to-distant future I will be married with one newborn and with plans to hire staff within a few months.

As I take a laid-back approach to work (the work hard for a while, rest hard for a while model), I am wondering how that can work with a newborn.

Would staff be a help or a hiderance, depending upon their contract and their disposition?

If I had hired help to look after the newborn, how much time is realistically needed? Live-in? Working hours? Half days?

I'm a fairly modern person in terms of working practices and have no problem with most working environments and systems so long as the work gets done.

On the one hand it makes sense to have hired help for the newborn for all working hours, but on the other hand, work and child-raising have been combined in cottage industries for time immemorial and the work I do is, like most forum readers here, almost infinitely flexible.

Please give me all your advice, discouragement, encouragement, etc.

stuartmcdonald

12:37 am on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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With a four month old and both my wife and I working at home, we've found having a nanny to be a very affordable way to see our daughter get the care and attention she deserves while allowing us to continue to work.

However

Being at home all the time, it's very easy to be distracted and spending your day with the bub rather than letting the nanny do her thing -- you really need to discipline yourself so that both you and your nanny are able to perform workwise.

Oh and I'd say no to asking staff employed to do other things to help look after bubster.

mfishy

3:10 am on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have little one but my wife is at home and we have help. Even with that, I find myself distracted as I want to see him and find out what's "going on".

I have an office on the thrid level of my house that is seperate from everything but I still am going to work out of the house at the office a few days a week now.

I think when I seperate work from home life I enjoy BOTH more in the end.

Of course, when my son turns 2 I am going to teach him some basic SEO stuff so he can pull his own weight a bit :)

httpwebwitch

3:56 am on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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congratulations tripleV! I hope all goes well with the birth and thereafter

I have a 3 week old bébé slung to my front as I type this. (babywebwitch, born April 18)

I will offer two more truthisms:

1) though you can't quite get prepared, you *can* get equipped (diaper buckets, baby clothes, vibrating bouncy chair, etc). borrow stuff from parents with older kids.
2) ask breeders for parenting advice -- and you'll get it. (as this thread illustrates)

WallyBob

9:06 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Contgrats vincevincevince!

I have to cut this short as I need to run and get my son from school - hehe.

You're in for the ride of your life, enjoy when you can and survive when that's too much too hope for. Read all the suggestions/examples here and remember that they are all exactly correct....for them. Each of us are so unique as are our little ones that there is no one right answer - or even a dozen! Plan to not get much done early on and find what works for you and the family. And don't forget to let us know how it worked out for you.

Girls easy? Boys easy? --- Not that I've seen!

[edited by: WallyBob at 9:07 pm (utc) on May 11, 2007]

shyspinner

12:34 am on May 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I breast fed my baby because he had two life/death surgeries before he was four months old, and it was recommended by doctors for his recovery. I realize it isn't for everyone, most women I meet reject it. I'd be irresponsible to not at least mention how absolutely wonderful it is for your baby, healthy or not. It can be tough on the mother until she feels she knows what she is doing. If your wife is at least considering it, refer to the La Leche League for info. I was referred to a lady who had nursed 12 kids and she was a wonderful help. Once the mother has learned some stealth tactics, babies can be nursed in virtually any situation without others being wise to it ;)

As such, the baby was "glued" to me almost all day and night, that is the type of bond it created for us. I suppose that could be seen as a liability for some, but it was a great blessing for me to bond with him in that way, and he healed much better and faster, as did I. As you can guess with surgeries of that magnitude, I did not work for a number of years. He was left with a choking problem, so I could not leave him in care of another and I had to step up when the issue arose, so child care wasn't an option for us. When he was completely recovered, then came the teething, then the weaning, then mobility, so things never really "slow down".

My boys are into the early twenties and are still l here along with their friends making plenty of noise, plenty of messes for me to clean up, and still have a hard time respecting that I work from home. There is a reason why middle aged people are so dang tired all the time! I don't mean that to sound negative in any way. I've enjoyed my kids thoroughly, inconveniences, emergencies, puberty...the whole nine yards, but raising kids is exhausting work, even when they are grown and still at home.

Babies are very unpredictable, so be ready for a lot of interruptions, noise, tears and giggles and messes. I hope you don't do a lot of phone work :)

I'm sure in a few months, you will marvel in your multitasking improvements!

By the way.....Happy Mother's Day everyone.

m0thman

10:55 pm on May 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Without turning this into a non "webmaster" debate.

My advice before you begin... "Really.. don't do it!" Not the marriage thing, that can be reversed. The kid thing because they take over and end up sucking the life out of you and there's no escape.

Seriously.... DON'T DO IT!

sugarrae

1:55 am on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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First, congrats on the soon to be addition.

I've done both aspects. When I started out, I had one child with special needs and early on in my career as a degenerate affiliate, I had my second child. I was running the household, taking care of the kids and working all hours of the day and night. Three or four hours of sleep was common and I rarely if ever had any time for myself. I finally got a housecleaning service, but even that only helped out a small amount. Then I got pregnant with my third child, subsequently got divorced when he was a few months old and when he was about ten months old, I was forced by certain circumstances to hire a nanny. Best thing I ever did.

It is now almost three years later and I am on my second nanny (I'd still have the first, but moved 1100 miles and as much as I begged, she wouldn't move with me LOL). There are several reasons I chose to use a nanny... these reasons may not resonate with you, but they also might, so I'll list a short sample:

1. For *me* I felt like my kids were getting the short end of the stick always having to "wait a minute" for me to finish something. Having a nanny meant them having someone to devote their entire day to my kids. They get to do crafts, go on walks, play outside... all the things I don't have time to do day in and out.

2. Saying "one second honey, I'll get your milk in a minute, mommy is on the phone" doesn't sound good to clients or while trying to strong arm higher commissions out of an affiliate manager.

3. I get the same amount of work done post nanny in 8 hours that I used to get done sans nanny in 12 to 14. In reality, I have more time to *devote* to the kids with my full attention rather than "spot attention" throughout the day.

4. If I get a great idea at 10 p.m. and stay up until 4 a.m. working on it (we all have those moments) I can actually grab a nap during the day.

5. When I hired a nanny, I made sure to hire one that didn't mind light housework (laundry, dishes, cleaning up after the kids) and one that would take over grocery shopping duties. Even more items off my plate (and my youngest son loves helping with the dishes and folding laundry because he feels like a "big boy").

6. I am still here if they need me. I still kiss all the "boo boos" and still settle fights between the two youngest. I have the ability as well to take one of my children out for quality time while the others stay with the nanny as well.

7. Frankly, I'm happier. I love my career. And having the ability to focus on it not only allows me to raise three children as a single mom who have very good lives, but also allows me to feel happy and productive myself... which benefits the kids because I'm happier during my time with them too.

That said, I echo mb... do *not* ask employees to help with your child. You'll likely have a hard time finding a writer or a coder that will want to deal with that anyway. Hire someone who genuinely wants to take care of your kid and don't skimp on the pay to find one. I've been lucky on the nanny front in that regard. Good luck.

vincevincevince

11:53 am on May 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thank you all very much for your advice... as httpwebwitch said... there seems to be no shortage of experienced people happy to advise.

What I take away from the posts above can be summarised as follows:

  • Don't count on productivity or focus and plan not to have either
  • Expect to want to focus on the baby constantly
  • Don't try to mix the office and childcare seamlessly
  • Try to get trained childcare as and when required

    On the positive side, I tend to work much better under time constraints... stops me thinking and planning so much in order to get things done faster.

    I should have mentioned that I'm living in Malaysia so maternity leave is rather short and both childcare law and business culture is somewhat different.

    Thank you for the comments regarding breast-feeding - I agree that it is important - and a brest pump method will be used. It's a shame that the mother can't be at home all the time, but that's just not yet possible for contractural reasons.

    I will, if the moderators permit, update you all once the arrival is arrived.

  • DamonHD

    12:35 pm on May 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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    Best of luck!

    (I have my daughter taking a nap here beside me on the sofa, and not detracting one bit from my productivity!)

    Rgds

    Damon

    kwasher

    2:57 pm on May 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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    - Keep the business and the baby seperated.
    - You be the nanny for a number hours, and hire a nanny for the rest of the hours.

    Get the best of both worlds.

    --Kenn (stay at home dad with 7 month old)

    midnite5_0

    6:51 am on May 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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    You were informed correctly when you were told that you would have about 4 months in which your baby would be fairly passive. Currently, I have a 3 week old boy, and I get a few hours of work done each day just working on the laptop while holding him. Of course, I'm also trying to make food, do laundry and maintain the general appearance of the house, so I may work anywhere from 2-5 hours per day depending on how things go. Full time work? No way. If I were hiring staff, I would make sure they knew that my focus would be divided between work and a baby, and then I would take it upon myself to tend to the baby's needs. You will enjoy this time, really! And you will regret it if you hand the baby over to staff when it needs attention. When the baby becomes mobile is the time to hire a baby-focused person, but make it a nanny, not a staff member. This may be several months down the road (my husband walked at 14 months while my daughter walked at 9 months). My best advice is to make the baby the priority and work around them. Enjoy every moment, difficult as it may seem. They grow up so fast.
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