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The Pirate Bay plans to buy island

     
2:05 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Swedish file-sharing website The Pirate Bay is planning to buy its own nation in an attempt to circumvent international copyright laws.
The group has set up a campaign to raise money to buy Sealand, a former British naval platform in the North Sea that has been designated a 'micronation', and claims to be outside the jurisdiction of the UK or any other country.

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11:16 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm. How long til their undersea internet cable gets cut?
11:21 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'd chip in some money for the cutting ceremony.
8:26 pm on Jan 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Why dont they go to China?
3:48 am on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm. How long til their undersea internet cable gets cut?

Not going to happen. You don't cut telecom services to sovereign nations, no matter how pissed you are at them.

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I was reading this in National paper at the weekend - 500 million is a lot of dough!
11:35 am on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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>>500 million is a lot of dough!

not really, you could have your own laws, absolutely no tax for your companies, 500 million seems cheap.

11:42 am on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a great plan! Its a cool idea Ive got to give them that!
12:59 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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But if they had 1 terroist on there it would blow the entire thing up! Its tiny...
1:07 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Might be good for fishing? lol
5:14 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If it's a sovereign nation.... wouldn't it be cheaper to just invade?

Partially kidding. A self-proclaimed sovereign nation with no military seems a precarious position indeed.

7:48 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It *is* a sovereign nation. And yes it has been invaded in the past!

I wouldn't recommend buying the island so as to do anything that upsets any of the bullying nations, look what happens when a country elects "the wrong sort of government"!

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Probably not a good buy.

When the oceans rise from global warming, the "island" will be under water! :LOL:

6:59 pm on Jan 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I believe the 'prince of Sealand' is supposed to be on the hour with George Stroumboulopoulos sometime this week (for our Canadian readers).

could be interesting.

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> A self-proclaimed sovereign nation with no military seems a precarious position indeed.

Not so sure about that; look at Costa Rica, for example (especially given the history of the nations around it).

> I believe the 'prince of Sealand' is supposed to be on the hour [...]

That would be this evening (the 16th)... (Did you see The Woz last night? That man is one cool gentleman!)

> with George Stroumboulopoulos

Congratulations on attempting - and getting right, I believe - Mr. S's name. I couldn't do it without looking it up!

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Congratulations on attempting - and getting right

oh I had to look it up alright, and stare at it for a while... typing it I was checking back - what? another u? there?

ahh godda love my cultural insensitivity training

the iWoz is cool, to be sure, in the same way *I* was cool being part of my linux users group in high school... but he really isn't a television personality. I saw him on Colbert and ... well Colbert didn't know what to do with him, most-awkward-guest-appearance-evar.

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I've sailed around Sealand (Rough's Tower) twice on a tiny Beneteau yacht. It's not too difficult to get out to from a Harwich Haven with a mainsail and a genoa as long as the waves are not too choppy. Maybe I could rent out a corner of the place from The Pirate Bay if their bid succeeds.

When the oceans rise from global warming, the "island" will be under water!

I doubt it. It stands pretty high out of the North Sea.

4:54 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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the 'prince' on the the hour last night addressed the issue of being bought by the pirate bay, and he said they would not be interested in selling to a file-sharing company - basically that it goes against their morals. They only want to sell to someone that has benign intentions.

But really, once they transfer ownership they wont have any say about how the 'nation' gets used... and the highest bidding parties interested in such a venture, I'm quite certain, aren't looking for an ocean view, so I don't know how the current owners expect to impose their moral values onto the sale.

It's a tiny little place, but who's to say an imperialist world power wouldn't want to buy it, and then build it into a structure capable of supporting military airplanes - all of a sudden it's some sort of Guam of the north Atlantic?

I really don't understand how it can be considered a sovereign nation... can anyone build a structure in international waters, assign a flag and coat of arms, and call it a country? Wikipedia says that Sealand's claims of sovereignty are not recognized by any country, but on the show last night it was implied that although British courts claim it to be part of Britain, other courts have disagreed....

heck of a strange situation.