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rj87uk

8:57 am on Dec 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Battered homes to be demolished

Some of the homes hit the tornado which swept through north-west London will have to be demolished while others remain too dangerous to enter.

[news.bbc.co.uk...]

MatthewHSE

8:09 pm on Dec 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's always bad when a tornado hits, but at least the people in and around the affected area can be thankful this was only a weak tornado. 100 MPH winds aren't bad compared to this [crh.noaa.gov] and this [crh.noaa.gov], one of which happened practically in my back yard. But then, we're used to them around here, and it's got to be worse in a crowded area where tornadoes haven't been exactly a once-a-week occurrence during the spring and summer. My condolences to those impacted by the storm.

Does London have a warning system in place so people can at least take shelter when a tornado does happen to come along?

mack

8:26 pm on Dec 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does London have a warning system in place

Problem being tornados just dont happen in the UK, well as this proves they do, but I can only remember one instance where it has happened on this scale in the past.

The world is changing and I guess this will be part of the future.

Mack.

bateman_ap

8:31 pm on Dec 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You stick a warning signal on in London and no-one would take the slightest bit of notice!

jecasc

9:16 pm on Dec 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does London have a warning system in place so people can at least take shelter when a tornado does happen to come along?

Haha. Good one!

Do people in the sahara have a warning system in case a blizzard strikes?

Essex_boy

12:00 pm on Dec 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sahara have a warning system in case a blizzard strikes? - Dunno, never been there :)

percentages

8:23 am on Dec 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The UK has on average 500 tornado's per year, according to the folks that count these things.

Most of course occur in empty fields and go largely unnoticed.

Every once in a while, one is going to hit a major city. It happened in Birmingham last year, this year London with more damage.

The UK doesn't really need a warning system, it is still a very unlikely event. In addition the UK also has a housing and building system that exceeds most of the World. (Including 95% of the USA).

Still, if a tornado should strike you, are you less likely to get killed in a traditional brick/brick or brick/concrete home in a typical UK house than a wooden or mobile structure used commonly in the Mid-West of the USA!

My question would be why UK houses (especially older ones) are constructed so much better than those in high Tornado/Hurricane target areas?......Price....Maybe?

simey

10:08 am on Dec 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Probably because you need to have a (relatively) high income to own Any home or property in the UK. (real estate values compared to US midwest)
Those that do can afford to have a well constructed home.

I've seen firsthand the damage caused by a full-force Oklahoma tornado though. A direct hit from an F5 will pretty much destroy most any home. You need a basement or storm cellar.

MatthewHSE

9:17 pm on Dec 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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All right, scoff if you want to. Dee-ride! ;) (Quoting from Fibber McGee when rattled.)

I guess if tornadoes just don't happen very often, the need for a warning system doesn't seem very clear. But to a lifetime resident of the American Midwest, where tornadoes are a fact of life, a tornado warning system is mighty nice. Our National Weather Service can usually give more than 15 minutes of warning time before a tornado strikes, and most people around here take the warnings seriously.

I can remember "supercell" storms that generated over 40 tornadoes in just a couple hours right within a very small area. I've been through at least one tornado personally, have been *very* close to several others, and have been through countless tornado-damaged areas. Seeing this [crh.noaa.gov] kind [crh.noaa.gov] of [crh.noaa.gov] damage [crh.noaa.gov] first-hand (which I did) tends to make one respect a warning when it's issued! ;)

Also, I'd never criticize the Londoners for reacting the way they are to this tornado - after all, this is the city that survived the Blitz - but a tornado as weak as that one would hardly even make local news around here. To me, that indicated that they're pretty vulnerable to tornadoes, so I just wondered if they might not find a warning system appropriate.

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:45 pm on Dec 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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but a tornado as weak as that one would hardly even make local news around here.

What if it happened in New York or Boston? ;)

ronin

5:24 am on Dec 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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a tornado as weak as that one would hardly even make local news around here. To me, that indicated that they're pretty vulnerable to tornadoes, so I just wondered if they might not find a warning system appropriate.

It was newsworthy because it's so rare.
Imagine you had a small earthquake where you live. (Sounds like a gunshot, nothing happens.)
Then imagine someone from Japan spluttering into their Miso Soup when they heard it got reported on your local news.

If you can donate us a warning system, I'm sure it will come in very useful in about fifty years time. Thanks.

Sarah Webinc

10:50 pm on Dec 14, 2006 (gmt 0)



It was very odd here..I am on the other side of London but got pelted with a serious hail storm. It drove my dogs nuts and I guess when I think about it I have heard about hail before tornadoes before but I didn't make the connection that on the other side of London one was touching down.