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Indian student develops paper-based storage system

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BeeDeeDubbleU

8:15 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Our storage problems are over folks!

[theregister.co.uk...]

vincevincevince

8:23 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The biggest potential I can see here is if the discs can be printed by commerical printing presses within magazines. Forget about sending your customers to your website for a download or even to try a demo of your new software - just get it printed at the bottom of your ad in a pretty frame!

If this really works it will be about thirty minutes before he's had offers from every intelligence agency going.

Jeremy_H

9:13 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm really confused by this idea, but if it works, and if it can be printed onto pages in magazines, then couldn't you save that "picture" in a lossless format like a png?

A 4"x4" @ 300 dpi image (1200x1200px) wouldn't be that large in file size. You could then print that data, the data of much more "disks" onto another piece of paper using the rainbow format.

With this new "disk" you could then save it as a png file again, and again.

It could be an endless loop of untilimited storage, which makes me highly skeptical of this idea.

I guess in theory, it would mean you could have unlimited storage given much processing power.

akmac

9:16 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like nonsense to me. Link bait.

mcavic

9:53 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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instead of using zeroes and ones for computing, he used geometric shapes such as circles, squares and triangles for computing which combine with various colours

I think the idea is interesting, but I don't know how far it'll go. It's an analog storage device, and I think analog devices are understood to be more efficient, but less reliable than digital.

I think of it this way: suppose you have a piece of paper on which you write a string of zeros and ones. And another on which you write english text (or circles and triangles). The paper with the zeros and ones can't hold as much data, but if it becomes damaged, it's easier to distinguish 0's and 1's than to distinguish O's and C's or circles and triangles.

It could be an endless loop of untilimited storage

In theory, yes. But the the necessary resolution would become greater than the capabilities of any printer or scanner.

vincevincevince

1:24 am on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am assuming that it is based on a very large dictionary which is used for compression. The larger the dictionary, in general, the better the compression.

mcavic

1:51 am on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Compression is inherent in the move from binary to analog storage. If he's using, for example, 4 shapes and 8 colors, he'd have 16 times the number of symbols that binary has and thus 16:1 compression compared to a system that printed black zeros and ones on paper.

httpwebwitch

2:47 am on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I invented a system of printed communication using 26 symbols arranged in highly compressed groups and stored in a dictionary. in my system a string such as "ploppy" can be stored using only 6 symbols instead of 192

whoisgregg

2:57 am on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I invented a system of printed communication using 26 symbols arranged in highly compressed groups and stored in a dictionary. in my system a string such as "ploppy" can be stored using only 6 symbols instead of 192

Still laughing, thanks httpwebwitch :)

inbound

5:00 pm on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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httpwebwitch is on to something, I think I have a nice way to expand it.

By adding a few extra symbols to the 26 already defined it is possible to cram an almost unlimited amount of data in a short string.

The addition of . and / allows for a concept where a small string can reference a much larger dataset, an example would be www.example.com/document, this 'reference string' would then be used to determine where to find the larger data set (probably using some sort of computer program).

The advantages of this system are numerous, you don't even need to scan the piece of paper as suggested in the original article, heck you don't even need paper (if we could just figure out a way to communicate these reference strings by sound waves).

Of course this is such a huge step forward that I would like the idea to be free for anyone to use, hopefully placing this description here will stop companies such as BT trying to profit from the idea.

httpwebwitch

5:08 pm on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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patent that, inbound!

httpwebwitch

5:13 pm on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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this discussion reminds me of vinyl ROM [halfbakery.com]. Great for Luddites who are still running Windows LP

percentages

7:57 am on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What a bunch of #*$!......is "
#*$!" allowed on WebMasterWorld?

lawman

1:37 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No, but "#*$!" is.