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Renovating a bombshell of a house

         

Crush

12:52 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I might buy and old falling down house in the next few days and renovate it. I really like the plot of land. Anyone had experience of this? Good or bad.

eelixduppy

2:40 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



If you have the skills, the time, and want to put the effort into it this will be a good investment.

My father and I have renovated two houses. The most recent one took us about 2 years to complete, only working on the weekends and doing some small things at night during the week.

What we did included completely gutting the house of everything, and changing the layout of the rooms on the first floor. Then we replaced all of the electric and redid all of the plumbing to fit our new layout, using all new material. This took awhile considering it was only the two of us, but it was very worth it in the end.

Looking back at the before-and-after pictures I start to wonder what we were thinking when we decided to start the project.

Best of luck!

benevolent001

2:52 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Did you mean you constructed or gona construct your house on your own?

thats seems to be good task , lot of hard work ,you will show your architect skills along with lots and lots of patience...good luck

i remember my college architecture girls...those were awesome...God created them with lots of harwork and to perfection...you see them...u will continue to see them ....rotating your face till the extreme..sorry took it other way , this architect word took me away ;)

good luck once again

weeks

2:54 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are a lot of good deals in houses which have not been cared for. Just watch the basics--foundations, roof, etc. The best deals are often where it only needs paint, a new floor and some new windows or a door.

Crush

3:02 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No I am going to pay someone to do it. Main issue is needs a new roof and has damp that need to be demolished, isolated and then an extension built. I am in Prague so labour is not like the crazy bricklayers charge in the UK.

ectect

3:09 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We're on our second house renovation, learnt so much from the first that we thought we'd get it right a second time. Both are / were stone ruins. Most important issues learnt have been project managing correctly, particularly being available at all times to the builders' doubts, and having some cash put by for inevitable eventualities. Best of luck ;-)

willybfriendly

3:42 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Houses are made to be built from the ground up.

Renovating often means working from the roof down. Pain in the arse. Cramped spaces, jacks, sledge hammers, etc.

Give me new construction any day.

If the house is really "old falling down" it might be easier to just push it over and start fresh.

Be sure to get an independent inspection done. Too much deterioration and it could well be cheaper to start from scratch.

WBF

walkman

4:34 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



timing is everything apparently in real estate, and many are making a killing. Good luck!

Crush

6:35 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"timing is everything apparently in real estate"

I think for most of the western world it is too late to make money from real estate. In the UK is gone up 200% or something in the last 10 years. I thikk in the US you guys are starting to see values decline already.

For me I want a family home and I spotted a reasonable deal on this place compared to the rest of the market. Even in Prague people ask silly money for houses that have had nothing done to them since communism fell.

Although in hindsight I wish I started as a property developer 10 years ago ;).

rocknbil

6:55 pm on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anyone had experience of this? Good or bad.

Jut give yourself plenty of room for unexpected project creep.

"Honey can we just fix the toilet?" :-)

Our guest house privvy was sitting about an inch off the floor when we bought the place. No problem, I thought, house has settled, I'll crawl under there, shorten the pipe to drop it back to level, remodel the bath, we're done.

I removed all the bathroom fixtures and was looking at the mud sill and outer joist through the access hole under the bathtub head. In case you don't know, the mud sill is a 2X4 is bolted flat on the foundation and the outer 2 X 8 joist sits on its end on top of it, then comes the subfloor and floor. The bottom outer joist was angled outward and off the foundation . . . my stomach began to turn . . .

On further inspection the outer sill on all corners of the house was completely rotted out, as well as 24" - 6' of the joist ends. The weight has caused the outer joists toward the center of the house to just pop out at the bottom on an angle, dropping the entire house 6" or so. When it was all said and done, I had to raise the house 6" and replace the ends of all joists all around. Just to fix the raised toilet.

The cause? Apparently the bathtub got plugged at some point, so the owner got under there and just cut off the pipe where it went into the septic, allowing it to drain under the house. Giving the joists a nice steam bath for 30 years.

In the long run yeah, it's worth it but we asked around and it would have cost at least 20K USD to do what took me 3 months and about $1400. So unless you do the math and it's going to raise the value significantly, paying someone to do it may easily eat up any hopes you have of cutting a profit.