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In Search of the Perfect Cup of Tea

forget the coffee :o)

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:46 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As a confirmed tea drinker the post about coffee made me think about the perfect cup of tea.

I have always drank my tea black, even as a child. I used to take sugar but with the advent of middle aged spread I started using artifical sweeteners (urghh). When I became self employed and working from home in 2001 my wife suggested that I take my tea naked as she did. I tried this but it got dangerous if you spilled any in your lap. But seriously, my wife drank tea with nothing added to it. She suggested that if I gave up the sweeteners I would become accustomed to the naked tea in a couple of weeks.

She is not often right (looks furtively behind to see if he is being watched) but she was in this case. I soon became used to my tea like this and found that I was enjoying it so much I had to buy a bigger mug. I now have a lovely china pint mug (that's a 20oz UK pint not 16oz). Now I often have two of these at lunch time, that's almost two pints of tea and it is so refreshing. With tea on its own I find that if I leave it on my desk and forget about it I can go back and drink it even when it is stone cold.

Any other tea suggestions?

Visit Thailand

9:51 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I could not agree more, tea has been my preferred option for many years and I buy special types of green tea leaves so things such as milk is out of the question, and any sweetners would ruin the taste - so another no.

I also drink from a large mug for breakfast, however also enjoy tea from a smaller cup with a tea pot.

abbeyvet

9:55 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Never use teabags. Never.

vincevincevince

9:59 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Three rules:
  • If you take milk, add it first, never second
  • Always brew your tea
  • If you are in a hard water area your tea tastes awful, do something about the water

    Three tips:

  • Make it with leaves not bags
  • Don't heat it while it brews - warm with a cosy
  • Use slightly less than boiling for green, boiling for black

    Three favourites:

  • English Breakfast + Earl Grey
  • Any mild-flavoured tea cooled, refrigerated and with ice
  • Green tea with lemon

    Three dislikes:

  • Teh Tarik [en.wikipedia.org] (urgh! No more than hot brown syrup with bubbles)
  • **** in a cup vending machine tea
  • Sugar or condensed milk
  • larryhatch

    11:01 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    So what's wrong with tea bags?
    They keep the spent leaves together so they don't clot up the milk. -Larry

    BeeDeeDubbleU

    11:10 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I agree Larry. I use tea bags and I consider them to be perfectly OK but there are some better teas that are not available in tea bags.

    My wife refused to drink tea that has not been made in a tea pot. She goes mental if I make hers in a mug with a tea bag and she can tell the difference! She won't use a metal teapot, only china or ceramic.

    I think one of the main things that must be done is to heat the pot with boiling water before making the tea. It must then be left to stand for at least five minutes to infuse before drinking (masking as we call it here in Scotland).

    larryhatch

    11:28 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Hi BeeDee. I understand the non-metal pot perfectly.
    Everything in a tin tastes like something from a tin, even chili beans!

    I also agree with letting the tea 'steep' as we say here.
    Too soon and you miss the full flavor. Too long and its sour and tannin-like.
    (Tannin is used in wine making. Too much and your drink tastes like dried tree bark.)

    I forgot something: Tea bags make great cat toys.

    Tie a string to the short string already on the tea bag. drag it several feet behind you. Cat heaven.
    Better than catnip. You just can't do that with loose tea leaves, it just makes a mess. -Larry

    (I don't have a cat, I learned this from my erstwhile French girlfriend.)
    She even had a cat named Tea-Bag, just like that in English. -Larry

    diggle

    12:09 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I love Assam tea - a full-bodied malty flavour. Definitely no sugar. The thought makes me sick.
    The miners in my home town used to take cold black tea down the mines with them to quench their thirst and also drank it out of pint-sized mugs.

    vincevincevince

    12:41 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    BDW, I had assumed that making tea in a pot was a given!

    And I'd never dream of using anything but a ceramic pot... A metal pot would add metallic taste (tea is quite corrosive when hot). I also feel that metallic pots radiate heat more quickly - you'll end up with luke-warm tea by the time it's ready to drink.

    tbear

    4:39 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    PG Tips bag in a mug (large) with 2 (cane) sugars and just enough milk........ the perfect breakfast!

    Green_Grass

    4:43 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Finally, some tea drinkers.. and some good tips..

    Better ask my wife to read this thread..

    abbeyvet

    5:58 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    So what's wrong with tea bags?

    The tea in most supermarket teabags is of poor quality, certainly of poorer quality than loose leaf tea at the same price and even of the same brand.

    Bags keep the tea leaves from floating about, which allows tea manufacturers to use cheaper grades of tea, which become dusty more easily and have smaller leaves. These low grades of tea are known as fannings in the trade. They give up less flavour and can be bought much more cheaply than high grade leaves.

    They cannot be used in loose leaf tea, even cheapo cheapo brands, because they don't settle to the bottom of the pot very well and they look like c***, so people would object.

    These fannings are perfect for teabags not just because the customer doesn't see them and they are cheap but because they need much less room to expand. Most customers are funny - if they get a big tea bag with only a little tea in it, they feel cheated.

    All in all the tea bag was a great invention for tea makers - it gave them a way of using up grades of tea that prior to the tea bag were often just discarded as waste. Not just that, they could charge more for this lower quality tea because of the added convenience for the consumer! They also created a new wholesale market for teas of a grade that were pretty much impossible to sell before the rise of the bag. Now of course, with almost all tea sold in bags in many countries, this market is huge and it has had a pretty devastating effect on smaller producers of quality tea.

    It is possible to make teabags with better grades of tea, and may good tea makers do, they look very different from standard supermarket tea bags. They are larger, have bigger holes in them so the tea can infuse better and the leaves can expand, and you can see that the leaves inside are bigger. They are also a lot more expensive.

    Essex_boy

    2:02 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    If you take milk, add it first, never second - I agree this causes real arguments in my family.

    claus

    4:11 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I have found that a *cup* of tea is not for me. It must be a mug and the bigger the better. Preferably a lot bigger than a coffee mug.

    Ceramics/porcelain, definately. The same goes for coffee. I drink both.

    With black tea I use sugar and milk. With green tea it differs. Herbal tea usually on the rocks. I use tea leaves. Yogi tea is nice, I like their lemon+ginger tea a lot. Also a special Danish brand of "universal herbal tea".

    But that is taste and taste you can't discuss as everybody will have their own.

    ---
    Added:
    The so-called "iced teas" sold in bottles is not tea.

    As for real coffe or real tea literally "on the rocks" I do prefer it hot.

    gamiziuk

    4:49 pm on Jun 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    After I bought my Mister Coffee espresso machine, I experimented by putting some tea bags into the chamber instead of coffee. It worked like a charm!

    Earl Grey hot, please!

    limbo

    8:41 am on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Reading this I think I must be a tea heathen - I do have one thing in common with all of you though - I LOoooVE tea...

    My routine:

    Tea Bag, 1 sugar, pour on boiling hot water so the bag 'whoomps' - leave the bag in for the amount of time it takes to distribute the coffees to the REAL heathens, remove tea bag, add milk, stir, drink repeat.

    At home I do use a pot - saves energy and makes more :)

    I have read a little about teas health benefits - its quite a plant by all accounts - reduces risk of cancer, cleans up free radicals, is an antioxidant - amongst others...

    Syzygy

    11:58 am on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I have read a little about teas health benefits - its quite a plant by all accounts - reduces risk of cancer, cleans up free radicals, is an antioxidant - amongst others...

    Green tea is claimed to be more effective than black in this regard. Also, one thing the "tea industry" doesn't tell you - whilst pushing the healthy properties of the stuff - is that research has shown that the antioxidant properties are negated by the addition of milk.

    Whilst I would have to agree that loose tea produces a far superior brew, that's not to say that a decent cuppa cannot be had from tea bags. It's all about knowing the optimum brewing (steeping) times and ensuring that it doesn't stew.

    For me Earl Grey (5 minutes) and Lapsang Souchong (3 minutes), or "smokey bacon tea" as my girlfriend calls it, cannot be beat - leaf or bag.

    I have a lovely two-cup Royal Doulton pot, and matching milk jug, that I use every now and again, when I want to treat myself and also if I'm having tea (that is, sandwiches/cake, etc, as opposed to just "a cup of tea").

    With the two-cup pot I've found that if using tea bags, one is enough. Indeed, one tea bag in a two-cup pot makes for a marvellously refreshing brew. Again though, the tea must brew for the optimum time.

    I never add milk or sugar to the cup and then pour boiling water on top, although I do add just enough milk to colour the tea, and one teaspoon of sugar; I'm afraid even with it's health-giving properties, I cannot drink my tea black.

    One should be aware that sugar is scorched when boiling water is added to it. Also, adding boiling water to a quantity of sugar is an age-old favourite "trick" of inmates in prisons all over the world!

    As a famous advertising slogan once reminded us, "Tea! Best drink of the day!"

    Syzygy

    rj87uk

    12:00 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Why does no one like the metal tea pots?

    vincevincevince

    4:09 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Why does no one like the metal tea pots?

    Black tea is rather acidic. After using a metal tea pot for a while you will notice strong discolouration and staining which you will never remove. That's a chemical reaction which yields tea which has a metallic taste.

    malachite

    5:26 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Why does no one like the metal tea pots?

    For the same reason as I'd never drink tea from a flask. Tastes ghastly. Ceramic or china pot just makes tea taste better ;)

    In our family, the rule for tea with milk was always this:

    1. Loose tea: add milk first then pour tea. 2. Tea bags: add water first, milk last.

    Syzygy - you ever tried Lapsang iced? Very refreshing!

    engine

    6:01 pm on Jun 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Tea is one of those drinks that is difficult to brew correctly and consistently.

    For sure, the water on black tea must be boiling. Anything less than that and the flavour will not come through from the leaf.

    It always tastes better from a teapot, and is often better as loose tea (it brews easier).

    It is possible to make an acceptable cuppa using a tea bag in a cup, although, it will be better, IMHO, from a pot using loose tea.
    If you must add milk, please, please, please (if you're making tea as my wife does), remove the tea bag before adding the milk!

    I do find that the slightest dash of skimmed milk can enhance the flavour of some teas, but it really depends upon the tea. The milk will help combat the really acidic teas and soften the flavour. But, only the very slightest dash of milk will do.

    No sugar, for sure, as it masks the flavour of the tea.

    Always serve tea hot.

    Early Grey, or any decent black tea is good for me. You tend to get what you pay for.

    There are some brands of tea that produce hard water versions. I've yet to try them, however, a good water filter will remove most of the chalk which often contributes to the scum seen floating on the top.

    Brewing good tea can take a little longer than brewing coffee. Perhaps that's why many people prefer the convenience of coffee.

    Oh, and yes, I also like good coffee. Again, freshly brewed coffee is best.

    Now, that reminds me. Time for tea!