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Bad Motherboard

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4css

11:53 am on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The motherboard on my pc went.

At first we thought it could be the switch, but my nephew bridged a piece of wire to the mother board to try to start the pc but would not start.

This all started after I dusted out the innards of the pc. Is it possible that I caused this? Could the air spray have done something to the motherboard?

Any suggestions? ideas? Need to avoid anything like this again.

I would so greatly appreciate any imput that anyone has to offer here.

BillyS

4:40 pm on Jun 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First off, you should carefully vacuum, not air spray the board.

You don't mention the age of the motherboard. Since it's old enough to collect dust, you might want to do a search on "capacitors on motherboards."

I had a motherboard that was returned for this problem. Look at your capacitors and see if they look normal.

Finally, make sure your CPU and memory are still tight. Many motherboards will include a series of lights or beeps to help you diagnose the problem.

4css

12:15 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi BillyS
Thanks for your reply. And apologize for taking so long to reply. PC up and runing again.

The motherboard was only just over a year old, maybe about 1 1/2 years. Wasn't an expensive one when I purchased it to start out with.

Ok, so vaccume mother board, got it. I seriously don't wish to have to go through this again.

The rest of the things you are asking about are a bit greek to me.

My nephew built the pc for me. In fact he was a bit upset that the motherboard went and was going to try to pay for the new one.

lol, first google adsense check ever recieved went to new motherboard and cpu. I suppose that was perfect timing.

Draconian

11:34 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I once was air spraying behind my pc and blew some dust into the fan. That royally... messed my motherboard. Needless to say, I haven't cleaned my computers since. :)

4css

11:52 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I always try to keep the fans clean.

My house seems to attract an extrem amount of dust. :(

So when the fan speed would appear a bit on the high side I would hit the fan with the spray and the rest of the innards, however, I never went near the motherboard until the last time I sprayed.

Lessons we learn.

vincevincevince

4:37 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I never clean computers, always looking for trouble. If it's not broken, don't fix it. I've never had a problem caused by a dusty computer. The only time I clean is to remove dust from an empty slot before I put in a new card.

Upright towers seem quite good at self cleaning, mine collects dust in the bottom of the case and not on the board.

4css

10:51 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You are so lucky then.

I get dust on the back of the tower, of which I vaccume very carefully off.

I have some tiny tools to attach to a vaccume from when I used to do crafts and wood working. I used them for cleaning saw dust from my woodworking equipment. I should bring them up and use them.

My fear is static in the case.

mack

10:54 am on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I remember reading somewhere that you shouldn't vacuum, but use an air line or pump to blow the dust away. I have to admit I am guilty of hovering.

If you do hover your case be as non-invasive as possible and do not touch any components whilst doing this. Static can be a PC killer.

Mack.

4css

9:33 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Mack, I appreciate your reply.

It is interesting to see the different opinions of how people take care of the dust in their pc, or dont in some cases. ;)

Draconian

11:43 pm on Jun 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You should wear a contamination suit. After all, house hold dust is ~ 80% dead skin cells...
You're not a contract killer are you?

4css

12:01 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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LOL!

Actually, that description sounds a bit on the gross side!

ronburk

12:15 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First off, you should carefully vacuum, not air spray the board.

Eh? I use both the vacuum and a can of compressed air on all my computers (all 6 in the farm), about twice a year. If I didn't use the compressed air, more than half the dirt would stay put (especially in the CPU heat sink area). The computer is, of course, unplugged at the time and no metal touches any part of the computer during the operation. I also stick with ASUS motherboards that have at least several month's track record (as a product) when building a new machine.

My wife, OTOH, never cleans. When her last machine died, we diagnosed memory errors. Popped the memory chips out and they were caked with dust at the connectors. Swapped in new memory, and it was back up and running. Barring evidence to the contrary, I'll assume it was dirt that fried the memory chips.

I've got ten-year old Linux boxes still running here, and I doubt they would be if I never cleaned. Where I live, our TV screen can turn a white cloth completely brown if not dusted for a month. Inside the computers, it's only worse. I hate cleaning, but I hate seeing the inside of the computer turned brown even worse.

4css

12:51 am on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How do you diagnois memory errors?

Essex_boy

6:47 pm on Jun 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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capacitors! Watch yourself there I was testing a mother board once, must be 20 years ago, couldnt find the fault and sat back to ponder my next move.

Bang!

Cap blew spewing out all the internal gubbins, only 30 seconds before Id been leaning directly over that thing, and I guess id have lost an eye.

Go careful.

BillyS

12:28 am on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Eh? I use both the vacuum and a can of compressed air on all my computers (all 6 in the farm), about twice a year. If I didn't use the compressed air, more than half the dirt would stay put (especially in the CPU heat sink area).

Sorry, but I disagree. If you feel that you have to clean a motherboard, I'd vacuum it up, not blow it around the room.

I learned this trick when I got into detail cleaning of cars - use a brush. If I have to clean a board I use a fine brush along with the vacuum. I carefully brush a component while running a vacuum. If you do this carefully, it is very effective. Of course remember all the jumper settings - just in case.

Of course you could also spend lots of money on specialized vacuums just for this purpose.

4css

8:51 pm on Jun 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Can't using a brush cause static?