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Essex_boy

7:48 pm on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The Beatles, supposedly the most popular band ever, 1 murdered, 1 stabbed, 1 with a one legged wife, and one reading Thomas the tank engine.

Surly not.

Two Bass Hit

6:26 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The Beatles... 2/4 of the band will go down as 2 of the 5 best songwriters of all time.

The Beatles... By far the most talented and groundbreaking group ever.

As for the leg comment...Weak.

PhraSEOlogy

7:27 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I remember Ringo singing with Harry Nilsson and doing his impersonation of Klaatu (the day the earth stood still) on the track "Only You".

What more could ya want!

Scruffy

8:24 am on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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'Shot in the back! Hee Hee, what a jerk!'

(Voiceover by Homer Simpson)

Jon_King

4:59 pm on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>The Beatles... 2/4 of the band will go down as 2 of the 5 best songwriters of all time.

I think just one and he is gone.

Essex_boy

6:50 pm on Mar 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im a fan of the beatles, very talented men, when I saw that comment I thought it was funny based on irony.

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4:43 am on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>The Beatles, supposedly the most popular band ever, 1 murdered, 1 stabbed, 1 with a one legged wife, and one reading Thomas the tank engine.

>Surly not.

Surely yes!

How many artists since the late 60's early 70's have generated that much energy? Not many, a few did good in the 80's, since then the POP industry has been dead!

Why are there more radio stations playing 60's to 80's music than current music? Maybe because current music has no insperation to offer?

In a poll of any age I still beleive the Beatles would be named number one band of all time.....also reflected in their long-term record sales :)

Liane

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I am not and never have been a Beatles fan. I didn't like their long hair and "she Loves You Ya Ya Ya" was perhaps one of the lamest and annoyingly LOUD songs ever written ... up to that point in time. The lyrics of all their songs (without exception) were and still are pretty lame. I mean really ... take a look at the lyrics, they are not exactly "quality material" ... but their music was!

My older sister was a major Beatles fan. She absolutely adored them! All of them! She even fainted at a concert in 1965 (much to my embarassment) ... as I was the one forced to peel her off the floor, clean her up and take her home. I was 9 years old and thought she was pathetic!

BUT ... as much as I was never a fan of their songs back in the day, I am amongst the biggest fans of their "music" ... because they changed the world! They really did! The whole freaking world was changed by Elvis and The Beatles!

Music is perhaps one of the biggest influences on a person's life! I am admittedly older than many of you. I LOVE Roy Orbison's music. I still think Elvis is one of the biggest and best singers EVER and I really, really like Dean Martin's voice to this day. I think Glenn Miller's "In the Mood" was one of the best (and happiest) orchestral/big band arrangements ever written!

Why are there more radio stations playing 60's to 80's music than current music? Maybe because current music has no insperation to offer?

I can't disagree with your statement, but I might disagree with your time frame.

The reason more "pop" radio stations don't play anything other than 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's music is because the music of the 90's and beyond (for the most part) ... has no soul!

Soul is not something you can fabricate. It either exists or it does not. You move people or you don't. It sticks or it doesn't. The greats will never be forgotten!

Sure, there were some pretty darned good songs produced during the 90's and even more recently ... but so few (too few) make you feel the way some of the older songs do! Ask yourself which song in the last 20 years actually "Moves" you or "Strikes a chord in your soul" the way some of the older classics do?

I believe music is about to have a whole new revolution ... and I am really looking forward to being moved the way I used to be ... once again!

Now, for all you Beatle fans out there, go take a good look at their lyrics [lyrics007.com]. The messages aren't as deep as some would have you believe, or as you may remember ... but the music was new, exciting and fabulous! Its going to happen again and I hope it happens soon! :)

tbear

6:59 am on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Right on, Liane!

Ahhh, yesterday.....

Not so sure I agree with you about the lyrics though. Especially 'Revolution' (the single version is one of my favourites), which has a very real message, and is actually still valid!

The 60s was a very positive decade (we're gonna change the world). The 90s seemed so negative (perhaps with reason), perhaps that explains the lack of soul.

I actually worked at NEMS in Hill St, London (Epsteins company), way back when I was 17. I had to go to the new Apple offices in Saville Row a couple of times a week. Crazy days.....
Got to meet so many musicians, including Beatles, Pink Floyd (Syd had just cut his first solo), Donovan, Bee Gees, Cilla, Alexis Corner, Gun, Hendrix, Clapton, The Who, the list is very colourful ;)
I don't think there has been another time when there was so much diverse talent around.

I also agree that things are going to change around to be more positive.
We can change the world!

Guess I'm still a hippy (60s variety), and proud of it!

Oh, and don't forget about the contribution George Martin (and Abbey Road Studios) made to the Beatles music.

Essex_boy

10:22 am on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Interesting thread, I agree with a lot of whats been said on here.

Elvis, Dean Martin etc thats real music and you get the feeling that they meant what they sang, it wasnt the money side of things being teh driving force. Whereas today....

I saw an interview with Paul McCartney where he talked about Michael Jackson stitching him up over the copyright of many of the BEatles former songs (yeah great mate Paul), when he spoke at Revolution and it being used on a showe advert, I tell you he was nearly in tears.

He really felt for that song and it had true meaning.

You can get more sincere than that.

walrus

2:01 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Goo goo ga joob!

tigertom

2:19 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Coldplay, especially that one 'Fix You'. Very nice. 'Fat Boy Slim 'Praise You'. Otherwise, not much 'soul'.

Music is product, now. Garage, RnB, whiney college bands, whiney reproachful female singers, Hip-Hop, all manufactured. UK radio is going American: same songs on rotation, all day.

Turn TV off, turn radio off, talk to your family and friends, play games with them, read a book, go for a walk, pray, get your mind back, instead of having some drivelsome 'song' repeating in it.

kevinpate

4:01 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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> ... Roy Orbison's music. ... Elvis ... Dean
> Martin ... Glenn Miller's "In the Mood"

A tip of the hat to Liane and her excellent ear for talent.

Essex_boy

4:07 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Music is product, now- The sad truth.

Liane

1:18 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Music is product, now- The sad truth.

Only because the Alex P. Keaton's of the world have made it so. One of these days, the rest of us will snatch the music back, put the soul back in it and make it ours again. It just takes a minor (or major) revolution! ;)

There will be another Roy Orbison or Elvis ... its just a matter of time. It will also depend on the strength of character of the next Roy or Elvis to be sure he puts the music before the money and that he can keep the execs at bay long enough to make an impact.

Two Bass Hit

3:01 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Music is product, now

Music has always been product. Here's an a great book that really illustrates this, "HitMen" by Fredric Dannen. Also read this [austinchronicle.com] for an interesting reality check.

Why are there more radio stations playing 60's to 80's music than current music? Maybe because current music has no insperation to offer?

That's probably not the reason. The likely reason is that the middle aged demographic is larger than the 18-34 demographic. As consumers get older, most don't seek out anything new, opting to stay within the comfort zone of what they know. Radio programmers know their demographic inside and out, so they are not going to start playing newer music that their demographic doesn't want to hear. That would result in less commercial advertising revenue.

There is still plenty of music being created today in every genre that has soul. Maybe you're just not looking for it.

In Jazz, check out Stanton Moore, Charlie Hunter, Wynton Marsalis & Christian McBride.

In Country check out Steve Earle. Also the last Johnny Cash recordings released on American Recordings are excellent.

Tom Waits is writing the most amazing music of his career these days. Elvis Costello is still tearing it up... check out "The Delivery Man".

In Blues, check out Corey Harris, Alvin Youngblood Hart

Also, the Buena Vista Social Club was an epic album, released in 99.

And of course you can't deny what Kurt Cobain did for music. One of the hugest "Pop" records of the nineties was called "Nevermind", which unseated Michael Jackson from the top of Billboard's charts.

Essex_boy

7:00 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sighs...

mona

7:39 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The Beatles are the best studio band ever. They not only created their own unique sound, their style was years if not decades ahead of the time. Yes, they changed music. But they were not a great live band. Within that era, I'll take Zepplin and Hendrix over them any day.

lawman

11:21 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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C'mon Mona. I've seen you. Unless I'm misreading your youthful good looks, you are definitely NOT old enough to have seen Jimi live. :)

mona

12:10 am on Apr 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The power of television, lawman:-)

mcjohnson

3:04 am on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh, and don't forget about the contribution George Martin ... made to the Beatles music.

I submit that George Martin's production was the greatest part of what made the Beatles great. The song writing was great, sure. The playing, pretty innovative. Paul was really using a bass in a much more musical way than has been done prior (check out the bass part on "A little help from my friends" for example)

But it was George Martin who decided how to pan the instruments in the mix; whether to double a vocal here, add a backing harmony there, he wrote most, if not all of the horn parts (he dashed off the french horn solo in "for no one" in mere minutes) He's why nearly every Beatles track is, in some way, memorable.

Now, as for today's music, vs. the music of the 60s', that arguement has been around as long as there have been bones to clack together. For every Clapton, there was an "Association". For every Zepplin, there was an "Archies". My God, the 60s' and 70's spawned more fake rock groups with actual chart topping albums than American Idol could ever hope to. The Partridge Family, the Monkess, Ricky F'n Nelson,

To consign the truly artistry to the past, however, ignores some of the real innovation of today. There are plenty of artists cranking out music for the love of music, not to fulfill record contracts or sell albums. Ani DiFranco, for one. Beck is a total innovator. The early bootlegs of John Mayer.

Anyway, that's my rant. Beatles from 64-66; disposable. Revolver through The White album? Classis. Abby Road? Chuck it. As for Let it Be, there are some great performances on that album, but "For You Blue" ain't one of 'em!

Hester

3:48 pm on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Abby Road? Chuck it.

You're not serious right? It is possibly the greatest Beatles album ever.

I love all their albums, though I grew up knowing only the later ones, plus a superb rock and roll compilation my brother had. I am surprised by the consistency of them all.

I'm now getting into the fantastic Beatles solo albums. There are so many classic releases to enjoy spanning many years. Did you know the debut album by Paul McCartney features at least two songs he wrote while with The Beatles? The songs are 'Junk' and 'Teddy Boy'. I listened to them last night and can hear the classic Beatles feel in them. With work from the other 3 members, they would have been even more amazing.