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Shockwave User Statistics?

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tonynoriega

9:38 pm on Oct 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im developing a banner for a newsletter and my manager does not want to use it becuase it is a .swf file.

She stated, "well if i cant see it on my computer, than how are the rest of the users going to see it."

I told her she was about 1 of the 50 people who do not have a Shockwave player installed....

SO, does anyone know where i can find statistics on users who have a shockwave player installed to back up my argument that we develop in flash...?

thanks

Leosghost

10:12 pm on Oct 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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#1 ..resign ..your "manager" is an idiot ..
the world does not resolve around her .. nor those of us that are geeky enough to disable flash ..or even to know what disabling flash means ..

# 2 ..it's been a long long time since it was called the "shockwave player" ..;-))

.swf means... it runs in the flash player ..installed and activated ( even in the machines that run n*rt*n ) in about 90% of all browsers ..

( now will follow miriad posts from geeks here who have it turned off..and dont like it ..their point is? )

BUT..we are not the average joe or jane 6 pack ..so run flash ads ..just dont use only flash landing pages or nav systems and you will do just fine with 90% of all consumers ...

dont beleive me?..go to any major web page ..cnn ..nbc..bbc ..whatever ..look at the "eyecandy" ..right click it ..
yes ..it's in flash ..and if you cant see it ..that just means you are making way less money from your ads than the companies who do use it..

and the day that google starts using flash ads in adsense and flash ads in adwords will be the day that the earthquake happens and the online world wakes up ..to what the ad industry has known for the last 90 years .."make it move" ...

imbedded video is just flash for those with high bandwidth providers ...

[edited by: Leosghost at 10:13 pm (utc) on Oct. 20, 2006]

JAB Creations

5:58 pm on Oct 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Flash should be used only as part of a site (as JavaScript is properly used (assuming a site does not create several hundred errors in the JavaScript console)). You should NEVER design a site completely in Flash but it is acceptable to use it to enhance your (X)HTML/CSS/JS so long as you use alternative content.

<object>
<param></param>
<param></param>
<param></param>
<span>alt content goes here, any elements that would work in place of Flash, test with your manager's computer for perfect example</span>.
</object>

Alternative content to Flash is not a widely known point. Also most Flash designers get a little too carried away (even though their stuff looks great). If you're (or your boss) are dead set on using an all Flash site be sure you're not trying to be found on search engines and that accessibility is not a high priority (though Flash has been introducing accessibility related stuff for a while now).

Best of luck!

- John