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Mozilla Will Launch A New Browser For Developers Next Week

November 10, 2014

     
2:12 am on Nov 4, 2014 (gmt 0)

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https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/11/03/the-first-browser-dedicated-to-developers-is-coming-2/ [blog.mozilla.org]

The First Browser Dedicated to Developers is Coming

We’ve redesigned the browser by looking at it through a completely new filter to put developers’ interests first. It’s built by developers for developers so you can debug the whole Web, allowing you to more easily build awesome Web experiences. It also integrates some powerful new tools like WebIDE and the Firefox Tools Adapter.
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I am looking forward to this one. So tired of the recent moves in ff away from useful features and into chrominess.
9:13 pm on Nov 4, 2014 (gmt 0)

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I will look and see Bill. My motivation?

allowing you to more easily build awesome Web experiences

I want to be able to strip away those "awesome Web experiences" and get down to a bare bones browser which simply achieves what I want in this modern "flim flam" world.

I regard a browser, like so many other things, as simply just another tool - not a life changing experience or some sort of epiphany.
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This will be a very welcome change due to so many "updates" reducing the features for developers. I HATE using firefox now because Safari is sooo easy (one step to clear cache but 3 steps in firefox), but too many sites won't work with Safari any more (YouTube and some link analysis programs). I don't like Chrome either because they don't provide enough options (I don't like using tabs and can't turn them off). They force you to use their design. When you use several browsers to check the websites you're working on it gets real annoying when every site makes you perform different steps to get the same result (so they don't sue each other for copyright infringement). grrrr.
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but too many sites won't work with Safari any more (YouTube and some link analysis programs)

Say what now? I routinely use Safari for YouTube because it's one of the few things Camino can't do. They haven't slapped on one of those insensate User-Agent blocks have they?

:: idly wondering what Mozilla has against {display: run-in} ::
12:07 am on Nov 6, 2014 (gmt 0)

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Safari on Windows when viewing YouTube put out a message several months ago saying something like use another browser.

Here is a discussion on Google forums re Safari not working on YouTube last May:

[productforums.google.com...]

I just checked and Safari on Windows is now working on YouTube, likely due to an upgrade.
4:36 am on Nov 8, 2014 (gmt 0)

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I think Youtube is no longer checking user agents - probably testing functionality instead. At any rate it now works with Rekonq.

I used to love Firefox because of the huge variety of extensions, but I have found that, once I install all the extensions I want, it becomes unstable. I now use it as a development browser anyway so I like this.
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I think Youtube is no longer checking user agents - probably testing functionality instead.

Yes, this is the one area where I'm confident that my blank screens are because this is something Camino genuinely can't do, rather than because it has run afoul of UA detection that thinks I'm using FF 3.6. The non-showing videos are actually useful on one legitimate movie site where I prefer to download, so it might as well not start streaming before I'm ready.

I keep forgetting that Safari-for-Windows exists. Especially in recent years since Chrome got so big, and now Opera going webkit too.