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I have struggled through and submitted our site to about 5 of the regional varieties (using babelfish to find the correct category - hope I got lucky!), and I'm wondering what results I might get.
How soon do sites get indexed? Is it faster than .com - there didn't seem to be many sites in the categories I was submitting to, so are they filling them with entries rapidly?
Also, am I correct in assuming that there is no business express for these Yahoo!s, as no payment forms appeared. A bit unnerving not to get presented with a payment request these days...
2."using babelfish to find the correct category" "I'm wondering what results I might get"
Babelfish huh? So do I. So do I. Be sure to tell us if you make it. If you used Babelfish to translate the site description, their editors may be dead by now - from laughing.
3. Have checked a number of Yahoo's European submit pages and found this:
Sweden: "If your site is foreign, you should submit it to one of our sister Yahoos"
Germany: Site must be in German language.
Denmark: Nothing about language, but no sites listed in any other language as far as I could see.
Norway: Same as Sweden.
France: "If your site is only in English, German, Swedish, Danish, Spanish, Italian, Norwegian, Korean or Japanese, then you should submit it to the corresponding local Yahoo."
Italy: Sites in Italian only.
UK & IrelandWill not take sites in languages other than English, if there is a local Yahoo for that language.
Spain Sorry, couldn't read the instructions, but my guess is that Spanish is mandatory.
Re time frame. Have seen reports that they are pretty quick. Your big problem will be local language. Without it, you will not make it.
No business express, no payment - but good translations will not be cheap.
Anyone else with Yahoo experience who can help rpking out here?
<quote>If you used Babelfish to translate the site description, their editors may be dead by now - from laughing.</quote>
Luckily the site has already been professionally translated, so the descriptions are there for me, and content should be appropriate.
I just used Babelfish to find the category ie. paste the category path from Yahoo.com and translate to find relevant words, then search for categories containing those words. Babelfish seemed to work very well for this, so I'll keep you posted on traffic etc. if/when I get listed.
Listen, when you've made it into these local Yahoo's, could you make a note of the time lapse and post it in this thread? A lot of people would be really interested in that, including yours truly.
Another thing many are curious about is how you handled the professional translations and what you had to pay for them. In this country, professionals charge 2 sek per word equal to about 20 cents US, but I have a hunch that it could be a lot less expensive locally, especially in southern and eastern Europe.
On 15/11 submitted to:
Espanol (Spain)
Deutsch (Germany)
Italiano (Italy)
Portugues (Portugal)
Norsk (Norway)
Svensk (Sweden)
These are the relevant directories for the languages that we offer. I will post again with any news.
Regarding translations...
Our internet office is located in the centre of a large university city in England. We have a system where we pay language students for translations of the text needed, which then get checked by a tutor. This translated text is then used by our inhouse designers to produce the foreign pages - a bit of a nightmare with Chinese etc!
As the majority of the site is dynamic, this is a good (and cheap!) system as the same phrases and sentences are used repeatedly in the page generation process. The amount of prose on our site is relativly small, and very static.
BTW, we also have a traditional Chinese translation. I was contemplating the overwhelming problem of finding the correct category etc., when I realised that our site's content, although non-adult, could be classed as inappropriate. I have emailed Yahoo! China for clarifiction on this matter.
The students have to be happy with proof reading now.
This shames me; I reckon that the average student body has a lot to offer ;)
Seriously though, there are many foreign students at universities who I am sure would provide a very high level of translation at reasonable rates. I'm sure an email to language departments would result in a lot of takers. I know that my flatmate, a language graduate, would have jumped at the chance for some cash when he was a student. Compared to degree standard stuff, the average web page would be fairly simple fodder, especially if the student was a native of that country.
I really like your effort to support the local european catagories of Yahoo etc. I t helps us natives to get more focus on these traffic providers as well - hence more relevant traffic.
Yahoo.dk is very quick to list sites if submitted correctly.
I'm from Denmark - if you'd like a look at some of your pages.
Yahoo.dk has not the penetration here as in other European countries and the US.
Jubii.dk is the absolute market leader.
Anybody got experience of the time periods involved for these Yahoo!s?
Espanol (Spain)
Deutsch (Germany)
Italiano (Italy)
Portugues (Portugal)
Norsk (Norway)
Svensk (Sweden)
I really hope my hours of struggling to find the appropriate category in 6 different languages wasn't in vain :(
Hej!
Eftersom Yahoo! granskar och katalogiserar alla sajter som läggs in i databasen manuellt, tar detta lite tid. För närvarande ligger vi lite efter, då vi får in ett hundratal förslag varje dag och man kan tyvärr inte räkna med en direkt behandling, men vi jobbar på så snabbt vi kan!
MVH Frida, Yahoo! Sverige
which, in case you don't speak our language, translates into:
Hi!
Since Yahoo checks all sites manually before they are added to the database, this takes a little time. We are running behind schedule at present, since we are getting about one hundred submissions every day and one cannot count on being processed right away, but we are working as fast as we can.
Regards Frida, Yahoo! Sweden
From this answer we can safely deduce that there is at least one person working there - Frida - and that they have a big backlog.
Patience is a virtue, rpking. This may be the biggest chance you ever had to become virtuous. ;)