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Germany - Deutschland. Search engines.
German directories are found here [webmasterworld.com].
Fact sheet [odci.gov]
Domain(s): de
Online population: 15,9 million (July 2000)
Native language(s): German
Understanding of English: Very high
Hosts in domain: 1,9 million (Jul 2000)
Pages in language: 9,9 million (Sep 2000, all domains)
Pages in domain: 9,6 million (Sep 2000, all languages)
Local presence required for domain registration: Yes
Multiple domains allowed: Yes
Professional help: See bottom of page
Known general search engines:
Abacho [abacho.com]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ? Meta description used in search replies: No, only title
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: Some Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: Yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Keyword density is important. Update reported to be very fast.
Abadoor [abadoor.com]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: ? Meta description used in search replies: yes
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: Yes Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: Onle one page per domain, will not spider others. Similar to directory. Other: Max url length: 42 characters. Maximum 12 pages per domain.
Acoon [acoon.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: NO Search technology: Own Meta description used in search replies: Yes
Things that help ranking: Local language: yes Local domain: No Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: Yes Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: No Other: Keyword density is the most important factor. Flooding and repetition observed to be accepted.
Altavista Deutschland [de.altavista.com]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: AltaVista
Meta description used in search replies: YesThings that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: Yes Keyword in header: Yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: Yes Other: Link popularity. Theme based indexing. Date: Older better.
AOL [aol.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: 3,9 mill page views/month Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ?
Meta description used in search replies: ?Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Belissima - see Abacho
Columbus finder discontinued.
Crawler.de [crawler.de] see Abacho
Excite [excite.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: 15 mill page views/month Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ? Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Fireball [fireball.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: 10,8 mill pageviews/month (research)/30 mill (own figures) Local language(s) required: Yes Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: Altavista
Meta description used in search replies: Yes Things that help ranking: Local language: Mandatory Local domain: No Keyword in URL: Yes, big. Keyword in title: Yes, boost if title=url. Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: No Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: No Other: Fireball reads additional meta tags indicating a.o. language, audience and subject. Info in help pages. Likes high keyword density and newer pages before older. Frequent submssion important. Links and link text important. Will index framed pages even if noframes tag i missing. Does not give preference to de-domain, ch and at work just as well. Submitted pages in index within 48 hours. "Spammers paradise".
Infoseek [infoseek.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: Germany's #1 search engine with 30.8 mill page views/month + traffic from T-online Local language(s) required: Yes Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: ? Meta description used in search replies: Yes, and keywords too.
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Not much Keyword in meta keywords: yes Keyword in header: yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: Also on main page of T-online, Germany's leading portal with 47,6 mill page visits/month.
Lotse - see Speedfind
Nathan [nathan.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: ? Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Lycos Deutschland [lycos.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: 36,6 mill page views/month Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: Direct Hit + Fast Meta description used in search replies: No
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: no Keyword in URL: Yes Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: No Keyword in meta keywords: No Keyword in header: Yes Keyword in 1st paragraph: Yes Other: Kwd on ALT-tags. Kwd location: High preferred. First three results from own directory, following 5-6 from DirectHit, rest from spidered index, a change to Fast is expected, but not implemented per Dec 1, 2000.
MSN [msn.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: 3,4 million page views/month Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: Inktomi Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Speedfind [speedfind.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: No Local domain(s) only: No Search technology: Own Meta description used in search replies: Yes, one line description, one line keywords, several line text from page.
Things that help ranking: Local language: Yes Local domain: Yes Keyword in URL: No Keyword in title: Yes Keyword in description: Yes Keyword in meta keywords: Yes Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Tigersuche [tigersuche.de]
Language interface: German Traffic volume: ? Local language(s) required: ? Local domain(s) only: ? Search technology: Oen spidered index supplemented by secondary results from Altavista, Fast, Fireball and Google. Meta description used in search replies: ?
Things that help ranking: Local language: ? Local domain: ? Keyword in URL: ? Keyword in title: ? Keyword in description: ? Keyword in meta keywords: ? Keyword in header: ? Keyword in 1st paragraph: ? Other: ?
Local people who can help with translations and advise:
Ulrich Wisser, luna-park GmBH. Traffic analyses, SEO and translations into German. u.wisser@luna-park.de This area will be updated with e-mail and/or web addresses to translators and SEO specialists, who have posted a reply in this discussion. Please state your name, web and/or e-mail address, languages to/from and what you can help out with. Prices and promotional stuff will be edited out.
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Updated March 13, 2001
Edited by: rencke
BTW, rencke:
please, update the infos about Abacho regarding to my reply from Feb. 16, 2001 - thanks. (I forgot this: the weight of the domain -the same how Fireball does- is also important at Abacho.)
I finally had the time to do some more checking and I have some pretty good lisitings in netfind.aol.de. They seem to list a lot of AOL listings in their meta-search results so I guess it's an added bonus for a Inktomi listing.
instead of [meta.rrzn.uni-hannover.de...] you could use [metager.de ] which is a bit more convinient. MetaGer is by far the biggest German Meta Searchengine.
It is university project in Hannover and used for research and development.
Edited by: wisser
Software: own
kw in 1st paragraph: yes
very funny: the only search-engine in Germany (in the world?) that earns money with its buisness should be out of buisness ;-))
1) Abadoor: does this take its search results from Acoon? Does anyone use either of these engines much?
2) Does anyone know anything about AllesKlar.de [allesklar.de]? I'm not so good on my German, and I can't really tell - is it just a directory with secondary results from Fireball? And does anyone use it?
?
And what spider does the crawling for all this: Crawler and Eule Robot? And do I also add to that abadoor and acoon? I'm afraid all my information is a bit out of date/inaccurate. How well advanced is spider spotting for the purely German speaking search engines?
the spider of abacho is
#UA AbachoBot,
but also
#UA Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt)
IP 194.231.30.106 / 107 / 108
Iīd say the spider spotting is well good enough to survive in the buisness with cloaking;-)
AV,Ink.,Abacho,Excite,Fireball,?Infoseek,FAST,?Google
perhaps?
Signor Machiavelli; May I respectfully draw you attention to the volume statistics per engine found in post #1 of this discussion, painstakingly collected through five months of hard work by our German members. It is the best info available at this time.
A few words to MSN:
I thought about the numbers of MSN, and I would say they are not right, because: what do happen when you type a wrong adress in your adress-field, or when you use the feature of Realnames? Youīll redirect to the msn.search, and then via the Realname to the right domain. I would guess that these searches were counted.
Example: type in "audi tt", and the redirect is
[search.msn.de...] after that youīll come to the website of audi...
comments about this?
Sorry, rencke, I didn't mean to appear disrespectful - it was the spidering info I was after really, rather than the specific search engines. I wasn't quite sure how much I needed to worry about Abacho, for instance (with its question mark for traffic); and also with something like Infoseek and Excite - just how much do the spider spotters care about getting IPs and/or user-agents nowadays what with both of them in some trouble in their parent companies? And of course, the Google thing - I wasn't clear how much a German webmaster would be interested in it. But oLeon's answer gives me a good guide.
Sorry to be an interfering foreigner. :)
Okay gonna call it a day now...Goodnight
>>and wondering where the money for TV ads is coming from
abacho earns money!
they (i.e. Endemann! Internet AG) do all by themselves, selling ads, they have cooperations with differents partners in France, GBritain, with Cherry (keybord-producer: the new keybords have a button that takes you directly to abacho!!).
seems that they realized that surviving is only possible when everybody knows you.
>>metasuche at abacho
I canīt remember when it appeared, just a few weeks ago. But itīs a useless feature because you canīt find a button to get to the next results, youīll only get ten results.
Excite -
hmmm, yes, I saw in january two visits from the excite-ip, but the page didnīt occur in the index, it occured in the directory! Thatīs why I think it has been an editor and not a spider. And the page itself cannot be found in normal searches.
Infoseek -
almost dead, indeed. try a search for "cebit", and you can see, current pages are from respidering a website and following the links (most of the results are from online-newspapers). And there are not many current results.
infoseek:
gone, agreed. Remeber my post from 03.09.01 when I had written them about submitting and they answered, promising to add my site manually? Well, so far nothing is showing up.
abacho "metasuche":
well, on some searches up to 30 results turned up. First 10 came from fast and excite, all the rest from yahoo. The fast db they are using is not very fresh anyway. Metasuche is a rather strange feature anyhow, it does not even imply their own spidered results. Whatīs it for?
