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EUROPE: The search engines you cannot do without #1

The first quarterly report on European search engines.

         

rencke

3:39 pm on Jan 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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European engines and directories that you cannot do without #1

Only 3 months have passed since the start of the "Grand European Plan" [webmasterworld.com] but a large amount of information on European search engines and directories has already been amassed, even at this early stage. So I thought it was about time for the first of a series of quarterly reports, to complement the Overview of Europe [webmasterworld.com], which contains useful figures and statistics.

One thing that can be said even now, is that the often repeated assertion that 90% of the world's search traffic goes through 8 to 10 leading engines is wrong to the point of being ridiculous. The pattern in Europe is clear. In most countries one or two leading engines have as much traffic as all others put together. These are typically purely local engines, well entrenched and oftentimes owned by the country's leading ISP - which is usually the same as the country's leading phone company (or phone monopoly in the case non-EU nations).

The big American international search engines are usually found somewhere below the top, but because of their presence in many countries, they can show impressive reach on a European scale. There is however no such thing as a European market. Do not believe people who tell you otherwise. There are 40 different national markets in Europe, so reaching their populations can generally not be achieved through international engines at this time. That can only be done locally. It is important to remember that only 28% of all Europeans and 32% of the surfers understand English at all. Communicating with them in their own language is therefore a must.

Here are the search engines and directories that you cannot do without if you want to reach the Europeans. The links point to the discussion thread for each, which contain more details:

Austria [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Belarus [webmasterworld.com]
SE: All.by
DIR: Akavita

Belgium [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Bosnia-Herzegovina [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Bulgaria [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Eurosoft
DIR: Dir.bg (62% of market)

Croatia [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Cross
DIR:WWW.HR

Czech Republic [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Cyprus [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Arachne!
DIR: Insufficient data

Denmark [webmasterworld.com]
SE: MSN, Kvasir (Fast)
DIR: Jubii (50% of market) Domain and language required.

Estonia [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Finland [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Sonera, Jippii
DIR: Sonera

France [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Voila Language required.
DIR: Yahoo France

Germany
SE: [webmasterworld.com] Infoseek, Lycos, AltaVista. Language required.
DIR: [webmasterworld.com] Web.de, Yahoo Deutschland Language required.

Greece [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Robby
DIR: In.gr

Hungary [webmasterworld.com]
SE: AltaVizsla
DIR: AltaVizsla

Iceland [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Ireland [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Doras.ie
DIR: ?

Italy [webmasterworld.com]
SE: MSN Italia, Lycos Italia
DIR: Virgilio. Language required.

Latvia [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Lithuania [webmasterworld.com]
SE: KTU
DIR: Lithuania Online

Luxemburg [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Malta [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Netherlands [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Ilse. Language and Dutch ownership required.
DIR: Pagina. Language required.

Norway [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Kvasir (Fast)
DIR: No data

Poland [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Onet (60% of market) Language and domain required.
DIR: Wirtualna Polska Language required.

Portugal [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Romania [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Edison
DIR: Insufficient data

Russia [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Yandex (37% of market) Language required.
DIR: Rambler, TopList (each w 15-16% of market.)

Slovakia [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Slovenia [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Slovista
DIR: Eon, Mat'Kurja, SloWWWenia

Spain [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Sweden [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Altavista, MSN, Evreka
DIR: Yahoo Sverige

Switzerland [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

Turkey [webmasterworld.com]
SE: Evreka (?)
DIR: TurkNet (?)

Ukraine [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

United Kingdom [webmasterworld.com]
SE: MSN UK, Freeserve, AOL, Virgin.net
DIR: Yahoo UK, The UK Directory

Yugoslavia [webmasterworld.com]
Insufficient data

A big THANK YOU to all those who have contributed to this forum. Keep it coming! We have big holes in our knowledge about half of Europe's countries and lots of details that need to be filled in for the rest. This project will take at least another year, before we can switch to updating mode. The next quarterly report will be published during the second half of April 2001.

Do you want to add to this report or feel that it should be changed? Post right here or in the discussion for the country concerned.

Jan

Edited by: rencke

wisser

9:40 am on Mar 10, 2001 (gmt 0)



by popular demand: some good news :)
Web.de changed to Fast and we can keep our money.

rencke

11:06 am on Mar 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Now *that's* what I call good news. Thank you Wisser.

oLeon

5:37 am on May 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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<<so I'll bet you another six-pack that we'll see T-online switch to a new SE this year>>

ähem -
so, rencke, could it be that Iīll get a six-pack from you because T-Online switches first next year? Or will you get the sixpack due to the early announcement of T-Online?

When I am asked about which SE I would recommend for a promotion, I always say -doesnīt matter which country- Google and FAST, too. So Iīd suggest that for almost all countries these two SEs are as important as the SEs mentioned above.
May be in countries where thatīs the correct proceeding these SEs should be put in parentheses among the others.

rencke

6:51 am on May 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



OK, I will extend the beer offer to include any switch by Infoseek.de up to and including Jan 1, 2002.

>Google and Fast.
Fast is already pretty well covered, since they provde the index for sveral major local engines. But I guess the time may have come to include Google too in the fortcoming 3rd quarterly report, if they make it into the top 10 in at least some of the major European countries. Wll keep my eyes open.

oLeon

7:48 am on May 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



It isnīt easy to mentioned whether Google is one of the top engines or not due to its backup function at Yahoo!

Iīd say, if you look at visitors which go to google directly itīs not as big as we think - but as backup-engine at yahoo (and that worldwide) itīs not possible to ignore it even if the numbers of pageimpressions are not that high.

Have a (german) look at this [wuv.de]. In the article is mentioned that Google is the # 1 regarding to its pageimpressions. I assume thatīs right if the pi of Yahoogle is count for Google. (a research of netvalue - okay strange numbers, no sign of fireball, lycos...)

jimmykav

8:14 am on May 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Ireland - Directory
local.ie

rencke

9:29 am on May 11, 2001 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>strange numbers...

Yes. Look at this from Netvalue's own site:
[de.netvalue.com...]
Supposedly the numbers that the article was based on. No sign of Google. Can you figure this out?

Attention all readers: This discussion was actually continued here [webmasterworld.com] on April 23rd and the overview in the first post above was updated in that thread, but not here.

Rumbas

8:55 pm on May 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

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>include Google too in the fortcoming 3rd quarterly report, if they make it into the top 10 in at least some of the major European countries.

Rencke, keep an eye on Opasia.dk (TDC) as Google have replaced Altavista.

If Google's increasing popularity is rubbing off on Opasia, they will suddenly have an interesting answer to Jubii's dominans.

FAKDIS Danish week stats [netposten.dk]

last few weeks the numbers have been fuzzy

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