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Strange Lost Cheque Order

Possible scam.

         

Frank_Rizzo

3:36 pm on Sep 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A prospective customer emails me saying he hasn't had his goods. He did not place an order on the site but sent a cheque to the registered office.

I explained to the prospective customer that he should have placed the order via the site and that we would have given him a different, more direct address to send the cheque (we don't work at the registered office - mail is forwarded from there to us every couple of weeks).

Anyway, there is no sign of the cheque. The registered office staff say they have not received anything for us recently.

The customer accepts that and says he will send a new cheque.

That's fair enough but he's now asking us to write to his bank and absolve the first cheque. Here's his request - it has poor english.

It's difficult to not think that this is a scam. Being a bit sceptical I assume that he's going to use the absolve letter to cancel the real cheque which he will send.

Then again. He could just be a genuine customer and this is something the bank / building society do regularily.

[edited by: Frank_Rizzo at 3:38 pm (utc) on Sep. 8, 2006]

[edited by: lorax at 7:42 pm (utc) on Sep. 8, 2006]

Frank_Rizzo

3:17 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just one other point.

I'm out of pocket in phone calls, paperwork but mostly in time all for a customer who may or may not produce a £34.95 order.

I know I could have mowed the grass instead and let the customer worry about the cheque that HE lost but think of this.

In another thread somehwere here (Foo) a poster says that he was gifted $20 because his doctor didn't want to accept somekind of payment. He wanted to know what he should do with the $20.

Well my situation is the reverse!

jsinger

3:33 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you had demanded appropriate contact info at the outset, this affair wouldn't have dragged on.

BTW, did you ask the snippy bank clerk for HER name? (and perhaps the name of her superior? LOL)

Frank_Rizzo

3:57 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This dragged on because only last week did he find out from his building society the procedure required to obtain a refund. Prior to that he just waited for the cheque to turn up or not.

I couldn't complain to the branch manager about the lady because she was the branch manager!

LifeinAsia

4:08 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Playing devil's advocate, since he gave you a direct line, it could be an inside job and the person you talked to has a "special" relationship with the other guy. But it seems like a lot of risk involved (assuming she really is a branch manager- can you confirm that with the head office?) for such a small amount of money.

Before going forward, I would confirm with the head office their requirements to re-issue the check.

Frank_Rizzo

4:25 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I would confirm with the head office their requirements to re-issue the check.

That's a good point. I'll also queery why I have to write directly to the customer and not send the letter straight to the building society.

jsinger

5:24 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Call the bank's HQ and speak with someone in security. When dealing with a possible scam, always go thru a corp's main switchboard, never a direct line provided by the possible scammer.

The branch manager's attitude is very odd. Real bankers take ID theft seriously. As I said earlier, the intended victim may be the bank, not you.

As for fraud, ask for all employee names. THEN, they will take your call seriously.

oldpro

8:06 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At this stage I mentioned to the lady that surely it is her problem and nothing to do with me. AFAIK he may have lost the cheque down the side of his sofa - it's not in my building. She gets a bit shirty asking if my company treats all customers like that!

It is her, and the fella that supposedly sent your the check problem, not yours. You should have asked her if her organization treats all their customers this way also.

Being that she got "shirky" so quickly smells like a fish.

Move on and forget about it.

kevinpate

10:47 pm on Sep 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As you seem unwilling to let the matter alone, and as you reference the pay it forward concept, then surely you'd stand a reasonable shot at not going deeping in the multiple losses column to simply give the chap the subscription with the best of wishes and luck. , from If the check shows, it shows, and if not, how can paying it forward and moving forward possibly cost more than continuing to spend time wandering on the existing path

Frank_Rizzo

11:53 am on Sep 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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kevin,? Is that Yoda, Yoshi, or Yogi Bear wisdom?

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I contacted their customers services dept. It is standard procedure (for this building society) to ask the receiving company to produce a letter confirming that the cheque will not be banked if found.

She said that I can write directly to the branch and do not have to send the customer my details.

oldpro

7:57 pm on Sep 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Frank,

Wanna come to work for me as a customer service rep.?

ispy

8:36 pm on Sep 14, 2006 (gmt 0)



I still maintain that banks don't give refunds for cash instruments based upon letters, taking in good faith that you lost something when you may be lying. If they did this they would open themselves to every theif in the land and go bankrupt. If there is not some scam here, this is a bank with a very serious flaw which won't be around long.

RailMan

10:23 pm on Sep 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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all this time, effort and expense for a non-customer .......
what do you do with real customers frank, wax and polish their cars when they spend more than a quid?!

Liane

10:30 pm on Sep 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I would completely ignore the entire situation and do nothing. You still have no order in hand so why should you do anything?

This seems like a pretty simple solution to me. Ignore it and move on. If the cheque ever appears, return it immediately.

Who needs the headaches?

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