Has anyone been lucky with good .com's?
With the proliferation of sites it is getting more difficult to find the right name. All we can do is keep after it.
If we were I'm pretty sure we wouldn't share that! :)I never said to mention the domain name, I was curious if anyone has been lucky with good .com's.
Honestly, I have searched almost every stupid combination of 2 relative keywords to my business + included the ones that dont really make sense either and they are all taken!
And it gets better >> They are all parked! They made No good use out of them!
I contacted a few of them, and one of the responses were: Our Company is not interested in selling this domain!
For those developing sites the parking of competitive names is a good ideaGood point!
I didn't think there were any two or three letter .com still available,Looking for two words not letters! ;)
And it gets better >> They are all parked! They made No good use out of them!
Don't call it anything stupidkeywordcombination - thats already done by the others - but come up with something like totalwidgetinformation or officicalwidgetsite etc.(with widget being your favourite 2 word combo)
Waste of time. "They" have already been there, done that. Too many millions out there trying to make a buck. Don't believe me, try it and get shot down because they are there, done that.
The magic of words, keywords, is gone. Keep after it, just don't expect the magic bullet. Ain't gonna happen.
The guys parking near names, close names, sorta names are doing it right: they have taken out the competition. Get on track kiddies! Find something else that relates.
Think Steve Miller's "Baby's House". Might provide some insight.
That being said I have not found anything that is a perfect keyword/keyword combo and do not expect to. I don't consider it a major hinderance though. A snappy domain, good product, and great pricing get me by.
Finally, you get to see the level of D'oh that I generally demonstrate at 7.20 am - and one very good reason why I normally have a shower and some food before going anywhere near the computer... except for today.
Don't call it anything stupidkeywordcombination - thats already done by the othersWould you recommend keywordcombination+(not so popular TLD's) over StupidKeywordCombination.com?
The guys parking near names, close names, sorta names are doing it right: they have taken out the competition.
I understand why someone would park (different combinations)+(Main Keyword) dot (all major extensions); but why park (the main 1 word keyword) + (almost EVERY extension)?
Are they trying to dilute and spread the value to different combinations of that one particular keyword?
Why hasnt anyone developed anything after so many years?
In my case many domains were bought full of good intentions to develop however time to actually do them has been scarce even 10 years later in some cases!
There is also the SEO "gaming" aspect that has changed, and even Google in its early years it was possible, to have multiple keyword domains interlinked etc. and more or less blow the opposition out of the SERPs.
Before anyone says "Tut, tut, you shouldn't have done that", it must be remembered we were ALL in uncharted territory, there were no rules, there were no historical guidelines or examples, it was ALL experimentational and we lived and died with the success or failure of those experiments.
Also don't forget those companies that have bought many of their industry widget keyword domains and typos, some with the intention to develop (like me) and some purely as a safety net.
I do have to say that I do not understand why any company that owns many of this type of name does not 301 them to their main domain or applicable domain site?
Maybe some of these large name owners simply do not "know" how to do it?
I know of one major UK PLC that actually pays a management company to "look after" its portfolio of 5,000 names. This I do not understand, ALL the registrars I use advise me of all impending renewal dates etc and even when I've let them drop they keep telling me.
Jobsworth I guess?
Think Island Nations that promote their extensions as Gtld instead of as ccTLD
Makes no difference to the search engines ..and you'll have a unique address instead of a.com-mon address
Would you recommend keywordcombination+(not so popular TLD's) over StupidKeywordCombination.com?
I have an employee and a business partner who continually get confused about our .net domain name. They will think the site is a .com and try to login using that, or tell someone on the phone - followed by the inevitable yell "our site isnt working!". This causes me to pull out my hair. When it comes to customers, I figure if MY people can't keep the .net/.com thing straight, how will the paying customers?
I would recommend:
A name with 5-7 letters that is a made up word
a name that can be told and the spelling is known by the listener
a name that is a little memorable (Yahoo and Google come to mind)
Of course, a lot of big sites like Digg, Flickr (or is it Flikr?), Reddit, and the like are not easily told over the phone to a customer - but they are bigger than me, so what do I know?
And for your original question - yes, two word domains are still available. I purchased 7 this week in my area.
Makes no difference to the search engines
Unfortunately I have to disagree with this.
There is one specific Gtld for which it is very difficult to attain rankings in Google, not impossible, just extremely diffcult. I have managed to successfully get reasonable rankings in Google for this Gtld for one domain however all the others are a total flunk to the extent that only this last week I replaced a 4 year old site under a new Gtld and have 301'd all the other, not only non-ranking ones but also never spidered ones, to this alternative Gtld.
and you'll have a unique address instead of a.com-mon address
Yes and it is quite amazing how well many of these "others" rank far faster than a .com-mon.
My assumption (anyone with any input on this would be greatly appreciated) is that these relatively newer Gtlds are possibly viewed as less "spammy" and possibly more serious and valuable to the SEs?
Whatever it is they do rank extremely well...so long as all the usual correct site and page construction methods are used, of course.
Whilst most in the US expect a .com outside of there, in my experience, most are used to other Gtlds and in some countries they are the "expected" Gtld, not .com-mon.
Also is the site a business or informational site for national or international use?
I do have to say that I do not understand why any company that owns many of this type of name does not 301 them to their main domain or applicable domain site?Maybe some of these large name owners simply do not "know" how to do it?
Maybe to remain anonymous and make a few cent clicks at the same time?
I know of one major UK PLC that actually pays a management company to "look after" its portfolio of 5,000 names. This I do not understand, ALL the registrars I use advise me of all impending renewal dates etc and even when I've let them drop they keep telling me.
Some like to just create jobs like the state of New Jersey where they have full gas service at all gas stations! I guess it helps the economy rolling… ;)
you can get one word keyword (let alone 2 word phrases)if you think outside of .com
gpilling, thanks. Yes, I am aware of that and own several own word domains with other extensions.
I would recommend:
A name with 5-7 letters that is a made up word
Yes I think one of my valuable domains is a 5 letter made up word .com. Although the word does mean something in a foreign language.
And for your original question - yes, two word domains are still available. I purchased 7 this week in my area.
Good for you. I couldn’t find anything. My first word was something like: my, your, I , e, … I tried over 100 combinations…and maybe that explains why Im outta luck!
There is one specific Gtld for which it is very difficult to attain rankings in Google, not impossible, just extremely diffcult.
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Yes and it is quite amazing how well many of these "others" rank far faster than a .com-mon.
Im not sure if I understood this. This specific GTLD is very difficult to attain rankings in Google but it ranks faster than a .com?
A couple of other things...where is your target audience{s} and language?
Worldwide target.
English.
Unfortunately for this business the extension has to be .com
There is one specific Gtld for which it is very difficult to attain rankings in Google, not impossible, just extremely diffcult.
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Yes and it is quite amazing how well many of these "others" rank far faster than a .com-mon.Im not sure if I understood this. This specific GTLD is very difficult to attain rankings in Google but it ranks faster than a .com?
Sorry, that's me rushing around!
No, this specific Gtld is very difficult to rank, period. There's nothing wrong with it however I feel there are probably a lot of bad associations with it and Google's algo especially marks it down.
I may be wrong however that has been my experience and that was using the same templates and construction methods I have done for many other sites that have all ranked well, and easily and quickly.
The "other" Gtlds I refer to using the same template can rank faster than a .com
There is one specific Gtld
One of the delegates at a training event I delivered a few months back spoke about their experience with Google ranking domain names on their TLD.
They were insistant that the .coms were ranked highest then .orgs (?!) and then other TLDs. I can't find any info on this.
(Obviously this is for the same domain name with different TLDs).
It's actually better now because in a sea of 30 results with keyword based domains, it makes it much easier to stop people dead in their tracks while they are scanning the results, with a domain name that evokes an emotion rathen than a keyword1-keyword2-keyword34U.com
:)
What is it?
I'll reveal it if there is no objection and then we could possibly discuss others' experience of it in a new thread?
They were insistant that the .coms were ranked highest then .orgs (?!) and then other TLDs.
This is more suited to the search forum however there seems to be no hard and fast rule on this, and assuming the sites and pages are constructed identically, hosting location is important as too is domain age, authority status, backlinks and quite a few other "things".
I have quite a few trade widget non.coms which rank #1 for many terms however some of them have so little opposition it would be difficult to say with absolute certainty.
My gut feeling would be that most Gltds are treated pretty much equally for the US SERPs, outside of the US SERPs for sites hosted outside the US IS a different ball game altogether.
YMMV!
Gold rarely drops in your lap, but if you look for something hard enough, you'll usually find it.
5 letter words are still there but much more difficult to find and not quite as fun or memorable words either:-)
Just recently, I purchased 100+ killer domains that no one has thought about yet, I'm always thinking ahead in this area and since I'm active daily in the industry, I can see upcoming trends. I purchase based on those trends and the words being used. As an example, I picked up the German word for "see you soon". A killer 6 letter .com that may or may not see the light of day. I'm still thinking about that one.
I'll use NameBoy every now and then to get ideas, great little service. I've managed to secure some premium domains using that interface.
You have plenty of options here. Ever think about creating new words by adding letters (front/back)? You still get to use the keyword but it's phonetically morphed.
Don't give up! You need to do some wordsmithing and you'll find what you're looking for. When you do, be sure to get all the other TLDs and secure the brand. There are millions of good .coms left. Think of them like Gold. We've had the Gold Rush already. Now it is a matter of mining in areas that have yet to be mined. :)
