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WebRookie

12:27 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My search engine marketing business was listed within a few hours of submission. The listing is in the category, but not in the database search as of yet.

The description is totally different than what I submitted, but it's liveable.

Whoo-hoo! Doing a virtual cartwheel right now... :)

Birdman

12:34 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That could be the eighth wonder of the world, Webrookie! .......as I patiently wait. Six months and nothing. I have to go up four levels(I think, maybe three) to even find an editor. Congrats.

caine

12:34 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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good stuff,

some of the editors, keep an eye on their cats everyday, hence will list immediately if the guidelines are met.

mahlon

12:37 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Nice goin! :)

WebRookie

12:46 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Definitely shocked that it happened so quickly. I know it takes much longer usually, so I'm more than happy.

Birdman -
>>Six months and nothing

That's depressing. There was an editor in the category I submitted to. It's unfortunate that there aren't any nearby editors for your section, that makes it much more difficult.

pleeker

1:12 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm almost tempted to create my own search engine marketing business (and web site) just for the sake of getting a quick listing in ODP for it! ;)

Congrats!

Axacta

4:41 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That's great WebRookie! Gives the rest of us waiting months some hope, knowing that they are still in fact accepting new listings. ;)

namniboose

7:18 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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After waiting 3 months I emailed an editor and was told that the site I submitted was rejected because it didn't have a physical address or phone number on it.

I was very grateful to get such a quick reply but I'm kicking myself for not inquiring earlier. I had been led to believe that I should wait a few months before approaching.

However, now I know that I can see when the category was last updated, I realise I could have figured out that my submission had probably been 'killed'.

Just thought I'd share my experience with ya'all!

[edited by: namniboose at 8:18 am (utc) on July 23, 2002]

Beachboy

8:10 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Y'all need not hesitate to contact an ODP editor with a question. Odds are he or she won't bite your head off. ;)

fathom

10:39 am on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Odds are he or she won't bite your head off.

Ya... but keep your butt cheeks hidden! :) LOL

angiolo

12:26 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My experience is that the better you write title and description in a way that the editor has not to change them, the soonest you get listed.

diddlydazz

12:44 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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<<-- My experience is that the better you write title and description in a way that the editor has not to change them, the soonest you get listed.

Exactly.

Take some time with your submission, make sure it is the CORRECT category for your site and don't fill the title and description with keywords.

Also don't repeat words in the title and the description for instance if it is a site about green widgets then don't put green widgets in the title AND the description (if you can help it).

Also remember that the category heading could sometimes contain the phrase Green Widgets, in this case try not to use the phrase again if at all possible.

the less work an editor has to do the better for you and the editor.;)

Dazz

Beachboy

6:14 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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<<My experience is that the better you write title and description in a way that the editor has not to change them, the soonest you get listed.>>

When the editor logs on to get to work, he or she is going to pull up a category and go through them one by one. It's news to me that there could be a correlation between when you get listed and the need to modify a description. But I suppose anything is possible.

EliteWeb

7:42 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Congrats on yer quick experience I've always had good luck with the sites I have submitted there are those I wait months for but they all come in time. And there are so many its hard to keep track of em all :)

q_b_p

12:50 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm glad to read through this thread and find people patiently waiting a listing. Normally someone will take the thread and whine and moan about how their site isn't listed.

Depending on how big the category is, how active the editor is (please remember we're all volunteers :)) and how many sites there are to be reviewed, it could take days, hours, weeks, possibly months. There is a forum that is checked on quite often by editors where you can request a "submission status". That way, you don't wait for a long time then request a report from the editor only to find it's been moved/deleted or something ;)
Hope this helps!

No URLs, please. Thanks. - Laisha

[edited by: Laisha at 5:09 pm (utc) on Aug. 10, 2002]

bird

1:25 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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When the editor logs on to get to work, he or she is going to pull up a category and go through them one by one. It's news to me that there could be a correlation between when you get listed and the need to modify a description.

There's no rule in which sequence an editor must process the submissions.
There are several editing modes. One of them ("chainsaw") lists all the submissions on one page, sorted to the editors preferences, possibly even for a whole subdirectory tree combined.

The first thing I do on this page is to check those who are marked as already being listed somewhere in the directory. More often than not, those are requesting an inappropriate double listing, and I can delete them with one click.

Next I scan the list for other dubious signs, which are a matter of experience (not disclosed here ;)). If the dubiousness (lack of content, wrong language, grossly misplaced, etc.) can be confirmed from the site, then they're immediately deleted or sent to a more appropriate category.

Then there are the obvious positive candidates. Some will stick to my eye with clear titles and concise descriptions. If a short tour through the site confirms those and they are submitted to the correct place, then they'll get listed right away. If you send such a well formed submission to one of the categories I edit, then you have a very good chance of seeing it listed the same day.

And last, there are all the others. Vague and overhyped descriptions repeated literally in the title, submissions that don't reveal their purpose even on the site, businesses trying to camouflage as resource sites, sites that are almost on topic but I can't find a better place for at the time, and other stuff that leaves me utterly confused as to what the submitter could have possibly been thinking. And yes, I have had sites like this sitting in the queue for several weeks (actually months in some cases), until I could make up my mind what to do with them.

The simple conclusion: If you make my job hard with your submission, then it will take significantly longer to get processed.

WebRookie

2:14 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>And there are so many its hard to keep track of em all

EliteWeb, too many sites submitted, well...that's a good thing. :)

q_b_p, welcome to the forums.

>>There is a forum that is checked on quite often by editors where you can request a "submission status"

The submission status at the public ODP forums is great, I didn't know about it. Thanks for including it in the thread.

No URLs, please. Thanks. - Laisha

[edited by: Laisha at 5:08 pm (utc) on Aug. 10, 2002]

q_b_p

3:58 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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First, I want to agree with all bird said, especially
>>If you send such a well formed submission to one of the categories I edit, then you have a very good chance of seeing it listed the same day.<<
That is, if I'm logged in of course ;) The problem with this is that categories all to often have more sites waiting to be reviewed than sites already listed. Usually, the editor will use chainsaw sorted by date to get the old ones reviewed first. This does reduce your chance of a same-day review on a cat with 100+ unrevs of course :)

webrookie, thanks for the welcome. This forum is far more active than I had assumed it was. Sadly, my name is rather odd...the registration wouldn't accept just plain "qbp"...

sparrow

5:54 am on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I just wanted to say that there are some truely wonderful editors at ODP, they're even human. I took my problem up one level (lost the editor in my level, spoke with him a couple times, and with the next update the fix had been made and we were now sitting NUMERO UNO!

Great guy this editor was, so don't hesitate contact an editor, if you get no reply go to the resource zone, explain your situation they'll give you some help, and by all means if you need to go up a level DO IT.

kujanomiko

11:35 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Also, if you email an editor about ontological changes (I've had people feedback me about adding categories) show examples. If a Regional cat is missing a cat that is in another town, then reference it! If a description you want changed is similar to another one in the directory, then show it! It makes it a lot easier to make the changes.