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Dmoz!

How much longer?

         

humpingdan

2:24 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ive been wating a whole month now to get listed on ODP i got submitted fine but im just sitting here patiently waiting to get listed right underneath my competitor! how much longer?

humpingdan

2:27 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thanking you,!

peewhy

2:28 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just a month?

You're not out of the stables yet:)

You can now do nothing other wait, your logfiles may give you a clue if an editor has visited your site. Even then it may take time to edit and decide ... then you might not get listed at all.

Having said the negative stuff, I have previously submitted and got listed in days - it depends on if there is an editor assigned and how busy they are.

humpingdan

2:41 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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editor is assigned so im hoping that it mite not take too long! i believe i shuold just sit bk and watch the log files! re-submitting cud put me to the bottom of the ile again! who else shud i be submitting to?

Alternative Future

2:49 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have a look at Brett’s search engine relationship chart [webmasterworld.com] this might help you find other places to registrar and who uses that directories etc.

-gs

[edited by: Alternative_Future at 2:50 pm (utc) on July 10, 2003]

peewhy

2:50 pm on Jul 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You are right, sit back and await your fate.

The natural progression would be Google.

Then just submit away to the rest.

coosblues

7:35 am on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can't speak for all ODP editors, but a courteous email might not be without warrant. Then again, one month is very little time and the category you submitted to may be either very busy or the editor just isn't checking in perhaps as often as others. Just because it shows there is an editor for your category doesn't mean that editor is active sorry to say.

lasko

9:28 am on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just something of not really importance

But I looked at the archive web site which shows what Dmoz looked like many years ago.

They used to write at the bottom

1000000 web sites, 59688 waiting review, 10,000 editors and so on...

I bet the number of waiting reviews is so great is why they no longer publish it.

I think the Domz is a great directory but needs a good shake up, some people are waiting months just to get a review. So they need more editors but to become an editor is all most impossible.

They do a very good job at Dmoz specially when its all edited by private people but their is a lot more that could be done to help webmasters.

For instance would it be difficult to give a ref number for every submitted web site so we can log in and see our status then after a two weeks the ref would be cleared.

Their might be to many submissions per month for this to work but its an idea. It would also inform the webmaster that he does not have to resubmit which would cut down on the work load for editors.

Don't knock me but I do like Dmoz, just think they could bring in some more tech.

cornwall

9:39 am on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>just think they could bring in some more tech <<

Bottom line is "tech" costs money, and it would appear that AOL is not going to invest in the whistles and bells that undoubtedly money could buy.

By its charter DMOZ is free to all, and the "owner" of DMOZ cannot make money, so there is little incentive to invest in more staff (above the 2 that are full time now) or better gizmos.

lasko

11:21 am on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Fair point you have :)

But I bet you most of the sites in DMOZ are not from editors who surf the Internet.

I would also say that to build a great website webmasters have to listen to their clients. Would it not be fair to say that Dmoz should take more notice of webmasters like Google does.

Given that its us webmasters who make great web sites (I hope they are great) to be included in the dmoz directory.

I agree and understand the situation regarding SPAM and it would not be difficult to ban a submission for certain urls that had already been submitted several times.

'Sorry you have already submitted a hundred times go away'

Dmoz is expanding fast and it will get harder and harder for Dmoz to cope without the better technology.

The huge increase of web sites in the last few years is only sample of what is to come in the near future and I feel Dmoz is already bursting.

g1smd

1:17 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You have missed yet another point in what the ODP is and is not. The ODP does not want to list every page of every web site. Nor does it even want to list the front page of every web site.

It merely wants to build comprehensive subject categories such that if a user wants information about small blue shiny ethinic imported widgets that if they navigate to the correct category they will find a useful selection of sites that will give them the information they require; note, not all sites that exist on this topic, but just enough that the user finds the required information.

This is in much the same way that if you visit some place far away from home and you wanted a taxi and you looked in the yellow pages for details. It would not matter if there was 2, 200, or 2000 taxi companies listed. You are going to pick only one and if they can do the job at the right price, then all the others are irrelevant. If one firm has 500 of those 2000 adverts each under different phone numbers, he is not providing any more of a useful service to travellers, just being spammy with his marketing technique.

victor

1:42 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The ODP wants to be the best human-edited directory on the planet. That means taking time to check submissions. The goal, as G1smd says, is to give a great service to surfers.

A lot of webmasters want one, single, website -- theirs! -- listed today.

That creates a culture clash between the two groups.

If 1% of webmasters subscribed to the ODP goal, and became editors for any category, that would solve the ODP's problem (not enough editors) and the webmaster's problem (not enough editors to get round to listing that one site).

kctipton

2:10 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good posts g1.

I sure hope webmasters have more sense than to create great websites _just_ for an ODP listing. The opposite is usually true: unoriginal, cookie-cutter, no-content sites are all the time submitted hoping for a listing.

As for the opening post in this thread, there's a chance that the site is already listed. A month's wait isn't all that long, certainly not long enough to start a thread about it.

steveb

7:20 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"But I bet you most of the sites in DMOZ are not from editors who surf the Internet."

I bet you have no idea at all about this. In certain categories it certainly is true, as not many editors will go out and surf for sites selling widgets, but in many parts of the directory editors who know about the topic add a huge percentage of the listed sites.

steveb

7:31 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"So they need more editors but to become an editor is all most impossible."

Becoming an editor of DMOZ requires finding three relevant sites; having the foresight to apply an appropriate category; having th commitment to do a few minutes of reading; having the ability to write coherent descriptions; and having the honesty to declare your affiliations and reasons to want to edit. I suppose that is "impossible" for certain types of people, but it is fairly easy for the vast majority of literate people.

cornwall

7:45 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Becoming an editor of DMOZ requires ...

...a Meta saying "yes". On balance they err on the side of caution

>> but it is fairly easy for the vast majority of literate people...

...as I understand that the majority (i.e. over 50%) of applications are turned down, it does not say a lot for general literacy levels if your hypothesis is true ;)

victor

8:12 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Getting a meta to say "yes" is not difficult. It took me two goes, but I got there.

Have an interest in a right-sized category, find some sites, write them up in accordance with the guidelines, using correct spelling and grammar for the tree's language, and the metta just can't say no. They'd be crazy to: they want more editors who can demonstrate those skills.

We could turn humpingdan's opening complaint around and ask why the ODP has been waiting whole years for some people to apply to edit. How much longer!?

Stop sitting patiently waiting for your site to be listed, and pitch in to build the best directory on the net :) :)

kctipton

10:41 pm on Jul 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I'd say editor apps are rejected over half the time, but it's not _always_ for literacy reasons.

peewhy

6:21 am on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It is a selective process and I'm pretty sure they have a 'type' that they look for.