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Multiple listings @ DMOZ for the same site

A way to get listed in multiple ODP categories

         

PlasticMan

1:20 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)



When I originally submitted my site to DMOZ it was to a regional catagory. It was listed. Later on, I realized I should have submitted to an industry specific category. I have asked DMOZ to move my listing from the regional category several times , but I have never recieved a response. I am tempted to submit my site to DMOZ in the category that is more appropriate but when I get to the "sumbit" page, it warns me not to submit duplicate sites.

I am not sure how to get around this problem, and was hoping that someone may have been able to solve a similar problem.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance

Beachboy

2:43 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello, PlasticMan, welcome to WebmasterWorld.

Someone want to move these posts to the ODP Forum?

Most editors will allow a SECOND listing. It is within guidelines to have both a regional and industry listing. Go ahead and submit your site to the appropriate industry category. In your proposed description, just add a nice note to the editor to the effect you would like to have your website represented in the appropriate industry category, also. Good luck.

PlasticMan

2:55 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)



Thanks for the welcome and the advice.

Sorry about posting in the wrong place.

Dpeper

3:21 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ive Submitted to tons of categorys there all relevant? Im not sure mabey i shouldnt be submitting that much ill let you know.

Beachboy

3:30 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you have one regional and one industry listing, then you probably have all you're gonna get. Continued submission beyond that will likely be viewed as spamming.

skibum

4:15 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sites that fit a commercial category and have a regional presence are often listed in the both regional and topical categories appropriate for the site.

Once those two listing are attained, subsequent submissions in additional categories may be viewed as spam because chances are the site has all the listings is going to get.

ukgimp

7:59 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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OK, but where would they stand on a site that was billed as a resource for

Mathematics
Computing
Engineering

Where all three are IRC's related to the above.

Curious

Cheers

fathom

8:30 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Let's see...

If your site supports multiple topics it will (in most instances) get listed in multiple topical categories.

WebmasterWorld as an example isn't just a forum?

It covers web design, SEO, web promotion, terminology, advance theories and methodologies and many other topical areas.

OPD (DMOZ) is primarily a research directory for gathering information and on any topic. If WebmasterWorld was the best online resource for information gathering of (SEO as an example) I doubt OPD users would normally associate forum and seo together (I wouldn't if I didn't know the relationship).

If you submit to categories that:

1. are a perfect match to you; and
2. there isn't 30,000 listing already there

It's a good bet you will be accepted.

This isn't SPAM, it's common sense. Web sites do have multiple topics so it's a little ridiculous making someone look for "forum" when they really want "SEO".

vitaplease

8:36 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ukgimp,

I have found that some editors are open to mulitple listings for sites as your example, if the quality is good. Sadly, others just follow the guidelines without looking, or look and answer that you are already listed.

DMOZ/ODP is best for strict single subject sites.

Also, Google will tend to only list the oldest or first listing within ODP, when one searches for "mysite". This could give the wrong impression of the nature and theme of your site.

ukgimp

8:53 am on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks

That is what I suspected, I will make the new suggestions.

FYI - the site are highly ranked and regarded in the UK academic environment.

Regards

Richard

choster

3:58 pm on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ukgimp, without knowing specifically what type of site you are submitting (portal? directory? educational guide?), I venture that your site would be most appropriate to one of the above-the-line categories of [dmoz.org...] .

keyplyr

8:06 pm on Jul 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Why would being listed in more than one cat be benneficial? From my experience, ODP's significance is not their own directory referrals but DB aggragation to it's many SE subscribers, which only SERPs your site once per incident anyway.

Quadrille

12:59 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Only really makes a difference for the very small number of users who do actually use ODP (or Google) as a directory.

In my experience, there are *VERY FEW* sites that really need to be in more than one category; for example, it doesn't usually take Einstein to spot the difference between a site discussing literature, a site selling literature, and a site about the author - but there are many webmasters who simply have no idea what their site is actually there for. ;)

I almost feel it would be doing them a favor not to list them at all - I'd hate to embarass them, before they've learned their job!

fathom

1:27 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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but there are many webmasters who simply have no idea what their site is actually there for.

BOLD statement and so true!

Woz

2:07 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>If you have one regional and one industry listing, then you probably have all you're gonna get.

Not always true. I recently received a second listing for a site that has been in for a long time. The second listing was not via a submission but added by the editor on their own bat and in a very relevant category. It can happen that a site is relevant to multiple categories that don't have a common root.

>Also, Google will tend to only list the oldest or first listing within ODP, when one searches for "mysite". This could give the wrong impression of the nature and theme of your site.

In this case, Google now lists the second, most recent, category in the SERPs.

Onya
Woz

vitaplease

5:10 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>Also, Google will tend to only list the oldest or first listing within ODP, when one searches for "mysite". This could give the wrong impression of the nature and theme of your site.

In this case, Google now lists the second, most recent, category in the SERPs.

Interesting Woz, thats new to me, can you figure out why/what Google chose the second one?
Pagerank of the category? Theme relevancy to the site?

Woz

8:40 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Interesting Woz, thats new to me, can you figure out why/what Google chose the second one?
Pagerank of the category? Theme relevancy to the site?

Category 1 (old) Pr 6
Category 2 (new) Pr 7

Both categories are relevant, the first is perhaps more targetted.

I am betting G chooses the highest PR category regardless.

Onya
Woz

vitaplease

9:40 am on Jul 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am betting G chooses the highest PR category regardless

thanks Woz,

In my case I cannot compare because my four highest PR DMOZ cat-listings are all PR6.

How about this one. The highest Pagerank-ing non-regional, non-world category listing of your index page? At least that could make sense in my case.

BTW, I have noticed that the Google directory DMOZ page can have a higher or lower Pagerank than the same category page from DMOZ themselves.

I have five cat listings and nine site listings, any idea when a site listing makes is to a cat listing?