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ccornell

3:22 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,

Im new here and unfortunately my first post is a nightmare for me. I designed a website for a company that was hosted on a domain I own, I did all the design work on it and I paid for the 12 months web hosting with the understanding that I would receive payment for this when the payment of the site was due.

The company never paid me a penny. After 6 months of banging my head off the wall I deleted the website from my domain. The company are now threatening to take me to court for deleting the site. Im based in the UK and as far as Im aware if its my domain, web hosting paid for by me and my work then I can do whatever I want with it until payment is made.

Please re-assure me that this idiot client is just blowing hot air and Im in the right, or am I in serious trouble for deleting 'their' website?

purplecape

3:40 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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A few immediate thoughts: Do you have a contract or just an "understanding"? Without a contract this could become an argument about who said what, and even if you are in the right they could take you to court. Do you have any documentation at all?

Why did this company not pay? Were they unhappy with the design work? Then you may not be entitled to payment for that--depending on the terms of your "understanding." But if they were unhappy with the design, why are they unhappy with it being deleted?

You say you've deleted the site. You have a copy of it, of course? Have you considered putting back up a minimal site-- one page -- so that you can point out that they HAVE a site but that you are not going to do more without payment?

But you haven't told us much about this, so the above comments are stabs in the dark. I have the feeling there's more to this than you've said.

ccornell

3:56 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It is basically a company that I have subsequently found out owe money all over the place and they liked the site, were pointing clients to it etc but they refused to pay up for the work, ignored emails etc and I tried for 6 moths to get payment from the owner but got nowhere.

I didn't have a written contract with them everything was mainly done by email. I can't see how they can now take me to court for takin down a site that I designed, the hosting is paid for by me and I even bought the domain plus if there was no written agreement surely they cant go to court over it? Any more than I could take them to court for non payment. I do still have a copy of it though and I emailed them to advise I was deleting it.

Syzygy

3:59 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



First things first, welcome to WebmasterWorld.

Second: you won't get any actual legal advice here. As I'm sure you'll appreciate, if you want any legal advice you need to consult a solicitor.

Third: from what you say, your non-paying client probably hasn't got a leg to stand on.

You have paperwork & emails to backup everything you say? You can show that as a last recourse, after the client had repeatedly ignored all your warnings, you withdrew the service provided? Yes? Good.

Next thing is to get some expert advice. Speak to your accountant or any other business advisers with whom you have dealings. The Citizen's Advice Bureau have information online relating to the law and Small Claims.

Citizen's Advice Bureau [adviceguide.org.uk].

You need to a) ensure that you haven't left yourself open to any legal claims against you, and b) get paid!

In the UK (possibly not Scotland), you can go through the Small Claims procedure online!

HM Courts Service [hmcourts-service.gov.uk].

Having a good read there and online generally should both reassure and guide you.

Syzygy

ccornell

4:05 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the welcome and the advice Syzygy! I was at the CAB this afternoon and they weren't sure XD hopefully they are getting back to me tomorrow.

rocknbil

5:04 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I agree. They paid you no money so have no leverage of litigation, the question is why YOU didn't send the legal eagles on THEM. (Does not require an answer, welcome aboard.)

LifeinAsia

6:04 pm on Jun 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

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The company are now threatening to take me to court for deleting the site.

Perhaps just fanning the fire, but your could respond that since they brought up the issue, YOU are now looking into legal action to enforce payment from THEM for services requested and rendered.

However, the burden of proof is then on you, which will be more difficult, depending on the language contained in the e-mails. My guess is that you would have more of a leg to stand on than they would. But as a non-lawyer, that means nothing.