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Ansearch move up the ranks

         

fish_eye

2:36 am on Jan 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As noted in early December [webmasterworld.com] ansearch is still up and running and happily publishes its top 100 sites and keywords.

Results are a bit repetitive to my eye but it's still nice to see its share growing and not too much spam - and the automatic default to Australian search is of course nice to have.

More here [gizmag.com.au] from gizmag.

They claim that

The key factor in Google's algorithm is based on the number of sites linking to a site - a significant difference to Ansearch's methodology which continues to gather data and evolve in real-time based on clickthroughs to sites in its search results. "It's the first search engine that actually listens to what the customers want and responds in real time," Ansearch Marketing Manager Louisa Williams told Gizmag.

I did not look at mysearch or ansearch when the earlier post was made - can anyone see if it's moved onwards and upwards in its reliability since then?

excell

5:33 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've done a bit of a looksee at this engine's behaviour and made a couple of posts about my findings on other forums... was just checking to see what could be found here.

I'm not happy at all!

For all intents and purposes I see them as nothing but content stealing... &P.. #% <---that is a swear word :)

excell

5:44 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In the previous thread (now closed) merlin78 was spot on and I expect there will be many many more businesses not happy as well.

excell

6:03 am on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting - the whois on yahooo.com.au is still ansearch & the domain goes through a series of 302s to finally arrive at yahoo.com.au

fish_eye

12:09 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In the previous thread (now closed)

Do you have the URL of the thread please?

anallawalla

10:08 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The "previous thread" is linked from the first message above.

excell, was there something about yahooo.com.au (with the three Os?), as it just forwards to au.yahoo.com? Was there an Ansearch page there?

excell

12:21 am on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's just that the domain is owned by ansearch (or another company associated) in this case, it looks as if yahoo have got them to redirect it to them (via a series of 302s).

I've been looking into this since about 300,000 results appeared in google serps for ansearch.

It is very concerning and I call all Australian businesses to protect their brand, make sure they register or re-register their company name & misspellings in the .com.au space.

A quick tour through whois results shows some alarming trends here.

Apart from misspellings there are also lots of expired domains (that still have links out there) and company names that just didn't own the .com.au domain names.

These domains are associated with businesses large & small & government departments.

I don't like what I am seeing and I don't think some of our Australian businesses will like having their name driving traffic to ansearch.

It is quite easy for anyone to access this information and see for themselves.

Apart from this issue I am also concerned about the manner in which the cache function works as it creates a new url with the scraped page which is then indexed by the likes of google and uses the businesses title & content with the link of course going back to ansearch.
The sitemap & details also use the businesses content, links & meta data.

It's all very clever - but it just doesn't look or feel at all right. I have made a post in a forum, where the engine is asking for feedback, that expresses my concerns but I don't think there is any explaination as yet.

I hate to be negative about this as so far ansearch as received good press and are due to launch shortly, but very soon there will be other businesses noticing this and it needs to be addressed (IMO).

I'm also wondering about ACCC & AUDA's position on it all.

excell

3:00 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else looked into Ansearch?
Anyone else not quite gelling with all the glowing pictures?

anallawalla

11:09 pm on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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News Ltd has taken a keen interest. [australianit.news.com.au] today in the Oz.

excell

11:25 pm on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it will be very interesting to see further response from AUDA.

Woz

11:46 pm on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Classic quote from above article - "I'm surprised anyone is even trying this."

Onya
Woz

excell

6:47 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Australians are naive and it's time for them to wake up a bit. :)

Chris_D

10:09 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Imagine going out of your way to pick a fight with Microsoft, ABC, News Ltd, Motorola etc etc over domain names.

excell

10:48 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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at the same time as establishing "credibility" on the asx.. hmmm
worrysome.

excell

3:26 pm on Mar 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not to mention telstra.

excell

5:02 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[snip out - incorrect / insufficient data!)

auDA investigation is well underway on the issue of questionable domain name registrations and it will be interesting to see what happens on that score.

[edited by: excell at 5:19 am (utc) on April 1, 2005]

Woz

5:06 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe, maybe not. It seems all .com.au'a have have disappeared from Google's index. This may be related or maybe a coincidence. Lets not read too much into it before the dust settles.

Onya
Woz

excell

5:16 am on Apr 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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sorry Woz, I only just saw that it is ALL .com.au LOL
WOW Happy April Fool! :)

excell

1:24 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, looks like Ansearch has launched their commercial search engine with lots of fanfare and emphasis on their demographic feature. I have been following this for a while now and I don't recall one independant "search engine industry expert" review of any of the features or results produced as being positive or useful.

There are some interesting articles beginning to appear at the same time:

Ansearch launches amid domain name dispute:
[zdnet.com.au...]

Ansearch ignores critics and declares business open:
[beerfiles.com.au...]

[edited by: Woz at 1:30 am (utc) on April 5, 2005]
[edit reason] linked URLs [/edit]

excell

4:12 pm on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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fish_eye asked:
I did not look at mysearch or ansearch when the earlier post was made - can anyone see if it's moved onwards and upwards in its reliability since then?
I don't think so, I don't see it as a reliable search platform or a help to searchers. I would be interested to know if anyone is getting any sort of useful results from searching on Ansearch? I mean - has anyone looked at this at the interface end rather than the dodgy traffic / popularity stuff?

yellowwing

10:23 am on Apr 9, 2005 (gmt 0)



ZDNet Austrailia is covering Ansearch's alleged domain name shenanigans.

Ansearch's CEO, Dean Jones, is covered by many Internet news sources as calling thier domain hijacking as "tempest in a teacup" crisis.

Let's see if Microsift and other giants think that Dean Jones's "youthful excuberabance" is anything that trademark lawyers will let pass.

What really bothers me is that Google cache shows the Ansearch pages on major-brand-name.com.au! How did they fool Googlebot and their billion+ Internet users?

excell

2:57 pm on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Simple use of 302 redirects from the aquired domains (with misspellings on known brands & websites or popular words)...interesting how "Ansearch says it cuts down search clutter"... ummm not on other search engines it doesn't! :o