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I looked at their contact info on the site, and they have phone numbers in Beijing and Shanghai.
That portion of the site is hosted in China. However, it's a sub-domain of wsj.com, which is a US company.
I'm not exactly sure where the ICP regulation draws the line. If the WSJ is playing by the rules then we could assume that subdomains aren't covered by this regulation. Could any of our members from China clear this one up?
Also, does anyone know how the whole censorship thing works for WSJ? Are they not allowed to talk about certain things? I am really amazed that a brand like WSJ would operate in China with all the censorship laws. You would think that they wouldn't want to risk their editorial integrity by operating in China.
This portion of the WSJ site appears to be hosted in China. If so, they probably have an ICP registration. The question then is why aren't they displaying it.
a site with a top-domain which is located in china should hava a icp number.
but in fact,many websites in china dont have the registration,it's not strange at all.
there are two kinds of icp registrations in china:for-profit or none,the wsj-china is a for-profit website,but for it's sub-domain name,it need not to have a icp registration.
finally, i should to say:chinese webmasters don't think the icp numbers to be a grateful thing,on the contrary,i hate the icp numbers,it is a deviant thing.
it can't be.in china
but for it's sub-domain name,it need not to have a icp registration.
Are there sections in the regulations that deal with this sort of case, or are they simply negligent as redstorm suggested?
by the policy of MIIT,a website with a top-level doamin which is located in china must have a icp number.it means the website has the administration authority of its top-level domain,as you see,the WSJ china is only a sub-domain,and he has no the ownership of his TLD--wsj.com,so it needn't to have a icp number.
by the way,mybe you would disagree with me,i had looked up the icp registration for chinese.wsj.com in WIIT's official site,there was no record matched.
Is this mentioned somewhere on the website for the Chinese Ministry of Information Industry:
dear bill,i cant explain the exact whys for you,in china,many rules are very confused. the only reason i can find is about the top or sub domain.
my sites had been blocked by MIIT for icp issues these days,this made me unhappy.
i'm going to hire a American host,so i won't need to apply for the #*$!ing ICPs.
Also wordings, interpretation and layers of bureaucracy creates gray areas. This is common, those that had experience it in China knows what I mean.
Furthermore, news, medical, education, publishing, television are subjected to different criteria
refer to [miibeian.gov.cn...] the fifth document.
By already operating and had been operating in China, and being a company that is the like of WSJ, it probably used a channel different from our website.
Maybe they missed it, maybe they never bother about it. But be sure that if WSJ and your website are caught without ICP beian, the recourse will be very different.
2. A company in China is hired to run a squid proxy in BeiJing that only passes queries toward the website.
3. An "A" record of "chinese.example.com" is added at the NameServer pointing the squid proxy.
Is it gray?
I took a closer look this. WSJ is using a CDN. Which could mean that the server is not physically in China but the content is cached in a server in China.
This is the point raised by fanqi above. This is indeed unspecified. My interpretation is that since the CDN provider is licensed so the onus is on them to monitor the content. Similar a hosting company can get into trouble (in fact many had) if they host unauthorized content.