Tracking Google spiders and crawlers withough log access?

is it possible?

[foy]

I have a site on a virtual server where I have php and cgi features but no logfiles (the admin said they didn't enable them because they would be too big and eat too much space).

So how can I extract referrer data without having access to raw logs? Any ideas? I tried some counter scripts but they were useless since they only track the keyword serps but they do not make transparent if a spider crawled my site.

[jeremy goodrich]

If you have php or perl, it should be easy enough to set up a counter which reads the environment variables.

I'd change hosts, personally, but the variables you want to look for are REMOTE_ADDR and HTTP_USER_AGENT for spiders etc. also, for search engine referrals the variable HTTP_REFERER is golden :)

[jatar_k]

as jeremy says, you can write your own custom logging. You could use db or flatfiles and use the variables that jeremy mentioned. I have created them before and they work very well.

[WebRankInfo]

If you don't want to make it by yourself, try my PHP free application "GoogleStats" which does it for you :-)