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P3P Privacy Protocol Bird or whatever

Whuzzat? How do I earn the green Birdie?

         

larryhatch

10:54 pm on Aug 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hope this is the right forum.

I'm getting entries like this in my access_log files:
'128.2.141.33 20AG05 15:37:38 /w3c/p3p.xml 404 292 cups.cs.cmu.edu/p3pfaq=1 '

Browsing for P3P brings up this site: [w3.org...] ..
which just confuses the heck out of me.

My site doesn't collect visitor data beyond access logs.
I don't know anything about individual visitors, no credit card info, nada.

Since some of the tin-hat types who visit tend to be paranoid,
I'd like to put up the colored 'bird' (or whatever) to reassure them.

Can anybody decipher what it is exactly I have to do?
With no user data collected, I see no need for some huge privacy policy file or whatever it is they want.

Anybody else dealt with this? I've never seen the bird thingy. -Larry

Dijkgraaf

12:05 am on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had a play with it a few years ago.

As I recall you can get a plugin for your browser that will check the p3p.xml file of sites you visit and compare the privacy settings in there to those the users configured. If the p3p.xml matched or was better than the users defined privacy preferences you would get the green bird. If not you would get a yellow or a red one.

I don't think the standard ever took off, which doesn't really suprise me, as it is the web site owner that populates the information in the p3p.xml file for their site, so those unscrupelous web sites owners could easily claim they respect your privacy when if fact they aren't going to.

Have a look at
[msdn.microsoft.com...]

larryhatch

12:26 am on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Dijk:

This looks like a lot more hassle and bother than its worth.

I think I'll just draw a cartoon of a dead canary and put that up instead. -Larry

ColinVox

7:15 am on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You should not underestimate the importance of P3P if you site relies on cookies. If the browser will consider that P3P policy is not suitable, it may reject cookies from this site that may result in undesired site behavior. Luckily most of the browsers with default settings accept cookies without valid P3P :)

dcrombie

11:58 am on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)



I use the following on sites that use sessions:

# P3P policy for session data 
if($_SESSION) header("P3P: CP='list your p3p codes here'");

I didn't know about a p3p.xml file, but it's probably an alternative to sending the header. There are a couple of (free) sites that will let you generate a p3p code suitable for your site.

But I wouldn't lose sleep over it ;)

larryhatch

12:11 pm on Aug 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks people:

My site doesn't set or read cookies at all.

I put up a tiny B&W cartoon of a dead canary anyway, couldn't get up a colored image.
I suppose nobody will know what that means, but it looks cute in a sick sort of way. -Larry