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legster

5:54 pm on Apr 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I noticed that one of my sites is not getting listed under any keywords on All the Web, and Lycos. It is fine on every other major search engine. So I checked, and the site is listed with numerous pages listed. The problem is 95% of the pages say 'No Title'.

Ack! No title? I checked my source to make sure, and every page has a title. Why is this happening, and does anyone know how to fix it?

Thanks.

jimmykav

8:14 pm on Apr 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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this used to happen to me when i used an asp page as a target inside a frame.

legster

8:17 pm on Apr 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

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We don't use asp, and we don't use frames. *shrugs*

We do use cold fusion, if that makes a difference.

Xoc

5:48 am on May 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I ran your site's home page through a HTML validator. It just started spitting out tons of problems. Keep editing your page's html until it passes through the WDG validator. [htmlhelp.com...]

angiolo

8:54 am on May 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Hi!

I had the same trouble and I found a solution here!

I had these linee in the HTML code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "--//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
<!Copyright 1998-1999 Mysite "www.mysite.com">

i got the suggestion to delete that lines. I deleted it; it seemed to me that the copyright tag was the reason.

Try to submit you site to this site:

[searchgoat.com...]

This is like a checker for the title tag. Submitting my site to searchgot the first time I got no title; after deleting the two mentioned lines and resubmitting it, I got the title!!

Now I am ranking fine on Fast.

Angiolo

legster

12:32 pm on May 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I am very grateful for checking out my site, but that is not the site with the problem. Actually despite the html problems pointed out, the site on my profile is indexed very well on All the Web.

I am not sure I should post my company web sites, that is why I didn't list it. I was just woindering if anyone would know off hand of what is causing this. I have an email in to All the Web, so hopefully they can give me an answer. Thanks.

Xoc

5:39 pm on May 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Angiolo-

Comments are done with
<!-- comment -->

The hyphens are required. That's what it was complaining about.

Xoc

5:40 pm on May 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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legster-

I'll follow up in this thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

legster

3:27 pm on May 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Not to be a pest or anything, but my question never got answered, and we kind of got off topic.

Fast never returned my email, so I really need to get an answer to this.

The question again is my page titles are not showing up in Fast, and Lycos. It is listing 'No Title' on the search results. This is obviously killing my ranking on the ten sites I own with the same problem.

I validated the pages, and there was no problem I noticed anywhere near the title tag. My sites all have valid title, and meta tags. The sites use cold fusion. On all our sites there is no code on the first hundred lines of space or so. I am told it is something to do with cold fusion. Could it be that the Fast spider only looks so far down the page for the title tag, and then stops looking?

I really need to get an answer if possible please. Again as a reminder, the sites I am referring to are not in my profile. Thanks all.

legster

7:09 pm on May 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Nevermind, I got my answer. :)

I actually got a response from FAST the first time, but deleted it because they didn't identify themselves, and I thought it was someone trying to get money from me to help.

After this last post they contacted me again(still no identity, but the source of the email came from FAST). The problem was the first tag in my source code is a comment tag. The programmers ended the comment tag with this ---> instead of this -->

The first proper closing comment tag on the page is just past the meta tags in the style tag. So the spider was completely bypassing my meta tags. :(

Across 10 major websites this is a huge mistake! I assume this would effect our rankings on other engines too since even though the other engines have interpreted my meta tags just fine, would this still have been hurting my ranking a little if they were reading it as a comment tag? Anyone wish to chime in on that with an opinion?

I want to really thank FAST for being so helpful, and persistant in helping me besides my rudeness of deleting their first email. :)

Now you guys know, that FAST does monitor this board. Not sure they wanted me to tell you that, but I think it is a positive thing in their favor.

Thanks everyone!

vis

3:12 pm on May 4, 2001 (gmt 0)

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There have been previous posts from FAST so we knew that they read the board but direct action in response to a member's query is really above and beyond the call of duty.

Thanks guys.

'deleted it because they didn't identify themselves' (shades of the X-files)

Brett_Tabke

8:03 am on May 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Ya, a good validator is your best weapon against search engine accidents. I usually validate the template and look for problems with it, and then hope the rest of the site is ok. (yes, I take the traditional liberties with html too...)