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Shutting their eyes to two of the largest countries in the world?
JOAT
If anyone has some suggesstions on this it would be much appreciated.
"Oh god please forgive them cos they don't know what they
have done and are missing .......$"
Thanks
Arun Kumar
[edited by: heini at 10:30 pm (utc) on Dec. 29, 2002]
[edit reason] no sigs please (see your mail at top of screen) thanks! [/edit]
There is a general perception that affiliates from India and China try to cheat the merchants. From the comments of certain WebmasterWorld members, it looks like there is a perception that all Indian/Chinese credit card purchases are fraudulent too.
See thread [webmasterworld.com...]
Unless there is a sea change in merchants' perception, affiliates/customers from India and China will remain blacklisted.
if cj allow indian publishers the unemploed will flock to the browsing centers with which just a one click will earn more than thay spend for the cybercafe per hour.
Also due to the above reasons the clicks will not lead to any returns for the buyer thus ensuring the low return on investments...
After all US economy should not be diluted because of indians.. same thing applies to china in much more way where mobile phone population is the highest in the world and is the biggest market for second hand mobile phones
1) If a guy is smart enough to join CPC affiliate programs and get around the anti-fraud systems in place, he WOULD NOT be unemployed.
2) Really? Then why is internet penetration so low in India? I hear only five percent of computer users have an internet connection. If you are referring to those cyber cafes that charge Rs.10 per hour, I'm sure that no self-respecting affiliate/publisher would go to cyber cafes to generate income for himself.
3) Huh? Which one? Reliance Infocomm?
4) and 5) Yep. But that doesn't explain why CJ should ban Indian affiliates. Indian affiliates don't BUY - they SELL.
As mentioned before, I feel its just a perception problem.
CJ should allow merchants from all countries. If they are worried about their CPC/CPM/pay per lead merchants, they should allow merchants to filter out affiliates from certain countries.
Pay for performance/pay per sale merchants will never have problems with any affiliates.
I have occasionally written "please take a closer look" notes with good results. But a surprising number of merchants seem to think the web site owner's country of residence is the only place the site's traffic will come from. Yeesh!
merchants seem to think the web site owner's country of residence is the only place the site's traffic will come from.
Elisabeth, such merchants do not deserve your attention. It looks like they are new to the world of internet/ecommerce and it actually shows their naiveté. Their affiliate support would probably be questionable too.
reject indian affiliate for a cost per click program, but not for cost per action programs.
Do we still have good CPC programs? I thought that model rolled over and died sometime back. The only CPC programs I see nowadays are casino and adult programs.
If you do know some good CPC affiliate programs, let me know. And don't worry - I won't spend the rest of my life clicking on the ads at a cybercafe...
Affiliate world is one of them. I can't join clickbank and many other affiliate program. I stay in Malaysia. They usually give 2 reasons
1. High Fault Rate - Nahhhhh!
2. Country politic/economic system (comunisimne, fix exchange rate like my country, claim to be undevelope country ...)
Another one is PayPal, I think I need to wait 10 years before PayPal will reach my country.
Next - THE most frustrated. Some websites block access to network of other country which claimed to be related to terrorism. One of them is godaddy domain registrar.
But for those who are from China/India/Australia ... any other countries that are not in the west. We have some benefit and advatages, one of them is what we earn are in USD - very high in return when exchange with our currency. And we are usually using resources from our own country which may be cheaper.
And we don't need to pay TAX as US citizens pay the most TAX in the world! :)
- Yes I agree there are no good CPC programs
- I have just got a USA address (costs $150 per year) to relay mail to my address, so I can 'pretend' to be in the US.
- yes, having a USA passport is actually the worst passport in the world to have from the point of view of taxation (with the exception of Libiya) because they tax you on your worldwide income even if you don't live in the US. In other words, if you have a USA passport but have lived in India for the past 30 years, if you didn't file a USA tax return you could go to jail.
Having said all of that, I'm not basing the US ... I love it ... fantastic economic success, great place to live, good skiing :) and an economic model for most of the world.
On having a mailing address in US, how does this work?
Why should I have to compete in my own market with some offshore entity that pays little or no tax? (I exclude my complaint from businesses in those nations that have similar taxing systems and share in the worldwide responsibilities and burdens of modern nations).
It's quite possible that CJ is responding to some US Federal regulations designed to foil tax avoidance. It's getting real hard to launder money now that the Fed is watching closer than ever.
Set up a legitimate business in the US, with a legal business residence, pay your taxes just like I do, and I'll have no complaint.
Mayor. How much you make if you didn't work in US? I don't know what is the price in US but in dutch as someone told me, it is $600! $600 for a non working ppl. Do you know an engineer in many coutries include mine can hardly get $600!
No one will want to pay tax true from their heart. Including Mr Mayor. You just don't have a choice.
Yes I do. I can leave, but I'd rather stay here and accept paying taxes.
I work at my computer terminal approximately 15 hours each day, and usually six or even seven days a week. All that to play my role in keeping our economy humming. I earn the right to complain about freeloaders and I earn that right each and every day.
Jamesyap, I would love to see you and all the people in the world earn a good living. All I ask is that people who want to earn it in the US market play by the same rules that I have to.
I applaud the US Federal authorities if they are shutting down the outflow of US dollars to offshore tax havens. You can be sure they are cracking down on the outflow of untaxed dollars through cyberspace and that hole, once plugged, will never again open.
That said, you might search Google for 'Delaware Corporations' as a place to start learning how to set up a legitimate US Corporation. Build a real infrastructure within the US economy to work from, pay your taxes, and the $600/yr earnings you're talking about might just be your taxes for the week.
And if India and China are tax havens, then pigs can fly!
Writing them a letter and inquiring would yield better results than trying to work around
Did that sometime back when I wanted to join Overture's advertiser referral program. Did not receive a reply.
Sorry, I was talking about Malaysia
I guess this is heading in a political direction, against the WebmasterWorld TOS, so I hereby declare EOM in regard to any Fed crackdown on money laundering through cyberspace.
I guess this is heading in a political direction, against the WebmasterWorld TOS..
We can always pack our bags and head towards WebmasterWorld Supporters Forum. Because I'm really interested in the topic and would like to know others' opinion on this.
See you there soon.
