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How much money do you make from your website?

How many hits & money

         

DennyTang

5:47 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering how much you guys make from your websites. I'm making about $15-$20/day but I have no idea if that's a lot or alittle for a website that receives 3000-4000 hits/day. It's only been a litlte over 2 weeks for me now so my hits don't really justify my site.

Is it actually possible to make a living out of your site from hits?

tsinoy

5:59 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hi... how did you get so much traffic in such a short time?

it is certainly possible...to earn.. base on my research on webmastersworld.com... although I haven't been earning much... the guys here typically.. use the following.. they get related affiliate products to their site and also add google adsense to their website...

that's a good start.

fidibidabah

8:13 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<n/m, i used my noggin'>

You're pretty smart, btw ;)

photonstudios

8:14 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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4000 hits could be 200-400 uniques a day, is that really a lot of traffic?

Michael Anthony

9:38 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)



The relationship of hits/UV's to profist is hugely varied deoendent on the industry and content of the site. Without more specific information, it's impossible to answer your question as we don't know what to compare it to.

DennyTang

5:45 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry I forgot to mention that my 3000-4000 hits were unique hits. I run a photoshop tutorial site and I submit them to portal sites such as good-tutorials.com and that's mainly where my hits come from. When I use the alexa tool to compare my site to the others, mine's quite low. I'm using google adsense and fastclick right now but am considering tribalfusion and castlemedia.

I think I received that many hits in two weeks because the portal sites attracts a lot of people to my website and because I updated my website so fast, people just started comming more often. I made a few websites before and I have to say the popularity of photoshop tutorials is really high, even higher than my previous gaming site which attracted 3000 hits after 2 years.

rfung

6:34 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think I get about 10,000 hits - for whatever that means - based on my web logs. I prefer to rely on the google adsense impressions, which has been around 1000-1500 so far this month, up from 800-1300 last month, I take it as a good sign.

DennyTang

6:38 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ya that's something I really don't get. Google AdSense impressions is twice the amount of my extreme-dm tracker and Fastclick shows about 1/3 of my extreme-dm tracker. Adsense only counts unique impressions right?

webmastertexas

4:41 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When you say "hits" do you mean "page views"?

rfung

6:10 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think hits in the general assumed(?) meaning of the words in the stats refer to anything that makes a call to the web server. So for the uninitiated, if your webpage has 10 images, this would be 11 hits (the images and the html file itself).

As far as impressions on adsense, I'd assume that these reflect how many times they've been shown, regardless if it's the same user or not on the same page or not.

Ultimately, pick one tracking method, and stick to it - the trend is what matters the most I'd say.

webmastertexas

6:18 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think hits in the general assumed(?) meaning of the words in the stats refer to anything that makes a call to the web server. So for the uninitiated, if your webpage has 10 images, this would be 11 hits (the images and the html file itself).

I actually knows what "hit" means. I was wondering if he did, or if he mistook "hit" for "Page view", etc.

matrix_neo

6:56 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi rfung,
Are you refering the site which makes you $35 richer a day? with 1000 - 1500 uniques/month? I would say it is great with such low traffic.

rfung

8:50 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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matrix:

'my site' is actually a combination of 5 sites and some PPC. That's 1000-1500 adsense impressions daily (which does NOT translate to unique visitors), so 30k adsense impressions/month :) <edited> re-reading the thread I realized that the photoshop site owner was possibly talking about monthly hits...

now you got me wondering if $35/day for 1000-1500 hits is good enough...

matrix_neo

10:17 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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now you got me wondering if $35/day for 1000-1500 hits is good enough

I said 1000-1500/month meaning 30 to 45 visitors a day and almost $1 per visitor which I consider reasonably good.

rfung

10:39 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I said 1000-1500/month meaning 30 to 45 visitors a day and almost $1 per visitor which I consider reasonably good.

I'm a bit confused. I said about 1000-1500 adsense impressions a day. How did you jump from that to interpreting 30-45 visitors/day?

Must be because it's almost 4am here...

matrix_neo

10:58 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I said about 1000-1500 adsense impressions a day

I misunderstood the above as 1000-1500 visitors a month instead of a day, So 1000/30day 30+ visitors a day and $35 in earnings for a day is more or less $1 per visitor. Am I clear now?

rfung

11:08 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Crystal :)

DennyTang

9:53 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow $1/visitor? That's impressive. I get about 7000-10000 google impressions a day and I only get about $10/day from it. Even my fastclick is starting to pay more than google.

I'm assuming part of the money comes from something your website sells right? Because $1/visitor from google... even I would pay to know how you did that.

webmastertexas

10:04 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I average $4/$5 a day on G, and I get around 7K impressions a day. I can't seem to get it past .4 CTR, although I just implemented a new system, so we'll see if that makes a difference.

rfung

10:31 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes that would be with sales. I average probably $0.50 a click.

DennyTang

1:54 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm glad to see that you have a sucessful website. Even 50 cents a visitor is impressive.

webmastertexas: Try moving your google ad to another position once in awhile; people eventually memorize where the ads are located on your website.

tsinoy

3:27 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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rfung,

I'm not sure if you mentioned this before.. how long did you have your site up before you start earning?

did you get indexed by the major search engine at that time when you start earning or was it thru ppc?

I had a hard time using adwords.. keep on getting slowed... so I haven't been paying much attention to adwords anymore.. and have been concentrating in building sites.

rfung

7:00 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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tsinoy:

I've had my 'flagship' site (pr5, 5th in position for a major two keyword combo) for a bit over a year now, it got there mainly through link exchanges. Then I connect my new sites to it, and that gets indexed within a week or two. Then some traffic starts coming in, and adsense profits too.

Bear in mind that my sites are data feed based - I try to add some value by making them a reviews site (for wahtever topic the site's about, i.e. guitar reviews, or digital camera review, that kind of stuff). This allows me to have a few hundreds of pages out there that catches some random traffic that I don't bother to optimize for. If the site/product shows promise, I may set up extra PPC towards it - the stuff I've tried (and this has only been 5 campaigns or so) has given me about 5%-15% CTR so I haven't had to worry about being paused for low performance yet. The key about that is of course targetting - if the keywords you're bidding for are searched a lot, you need to narrow it down - or the other option, which is what happens to me, is that the keywords are not searched a lot at all, so 1 click will count a lot more towards the impressions.

I've since reduced my PPC to my site because the return on investment hasn't been too high - instead I've focused on sending it to the merchant. The 3(!) products I am campaigning for a total of $10/day or so have so far yielded me about 70%-100% profit.

I just have SO many ideas I'd like to try out for websites and keeping up with PPC just isn't for me because it requires a lot more detailed attention in case the campaigns performances go down. Every week or so I'll check the PPC returns and because of the low investment I can risk coming back and seeing a negative return and then dealing with it.

I get really excited about the potential of AM, and even more so about the fact that I'm seemingly making it work. My way may not(will not!?) work for someone who's got one site that they're passionate about and are spending many hours thinking about wether to put an h1 tag or not...

Man...my answers tend to be really long, eh. I'm really just a newbie with a handful of really cheapo/ugly/low ranking sites.

HTH.

recordc48

10:37 am on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am new to google adsense, and for my first week I have a 2% click through rate, and am averaging $5 per day with roughly 700 adsense impressions. I am also assuming that several of the impressions are mine because I have been updating the site this week.

From what I have learned, it seems that in order to make good income with adsense you need to target top dollar google adwords. Meaning that if the content on your site was about a theme that people were paying $5 per click on google adwords, you would make significantly more than if it covered a theme where people paid 10cents per google adword for.

Is this correct?

djohnson

7:11 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That would be flirting closely with violating the TOS for adsense... I suggest creating content and then altering the words, ie use a thesaurus, to find different words that might pay more. Of course this will take either an adwords account or many weeks/months of testing. Hope this helps some. :)

EDIT: BTW recordc48, those stats are looking pretty good imho. I suggest more visitors and you might have some good returns!

DennyTang

7:50 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How do you know how much each ad pays?

djohnson

9:13 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From what I can tell, there is no way unless you track the clicks from your site...

tsinoy

9:49 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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rfung!

cool, thank you for explaining what you have done.

I have to admit doing the ppc thing is a little bit frustrating for me... my adwords keep on getting slowed... but anyways... I've already scale back my ppc campaigns for now.. until I get some of my site in order.

rfung

10:10 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yeah the PPC thing can be. I'm glad I don't have to count on it for organic traffic to find me and give me some revenue in sales and adsense.

Once you have some profit from those sources, then you can dabble with PPC to support what you know that has worked through your site (i.e. if you're selling widget A through your site, then try doing some ppc for widget A either to your site or to the merchant to see if you can bump up sales). This way you're still close to home, and you'll have some knowledge already of widget A's performance.