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Kanoodle's BrightAds program

Anybody trying the Beta version?

         

panicbutton

7:40 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just got an invite to register for Kanoodle's ad network and am wondering if anyone else has been running it or have any thoughts on how it's working for them?

Like others on this board I've seen some dramatic downward shifts in revenue from Adsense so I'm keen to try any alternatives.

davec

10:08 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi

I got the email last night also. Have signed up and am waiting for approval. Will let everyone know what it's like once I've been approved and had a thorough look around.

d

Paris

1:45 pm on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It sounds promising on the surface.

No PSAs.

PayPal option for payment.

Transparency = 50/50 revenue split.

Topics instead of keywords (well, this one is a mixed blessing in that the topics are more general so they aren't going to be as attractive and specific in terms of relevance but at least you won't have the wrong keyword produce ads that are completely off).

However, then you have to remember that this is Kanoodle. The bids aren't going to much higher than a few pennies on most terms so the payouts will probably be much smaller than AdSense. The clickthroughs will probably be lower too (due to ad relevancy of topic over keyword). You also have to open a new account for every website -- that I'm guessing will be changed soon.

But, hey, it's at least an alternative until Overture enters the game.

[edited by: Drastic at 9:06 pm (utc) on Oct. 6, 2004]
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javahava

8:19 pm on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have actual experience and a sense of payouts? Not sure if this is the right place to post.

DamonHD

8:31 pm on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Would AdSense TOS allow you to have them on the same page or as the "fallback" ad instead of PSA?

Rgds

DHD

Paris

11:11 pm on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Damon, AdSense TOS would prohibit placing Kanoodle's BrightAds on a page serving an AdSense block. As an alternate ad? I don't see why not. Just make sure that you're not serving multiple AdSense ads in the same page.

Incidentally, the Kanoodle approval process was pretty quick and the stats are in-fact real-time. The only reason I went ahead with it was because I had a small site that kept getting PSAs (even though it's certainly a Google-friendly site -- I'm thinking it was the link to report dead links triggered the word "dead" in the AdSense killfile).

Either way I figured I'd give Kanoodle a shot serving up entertainment ads.

No clicks yet so there's nothing to report but the impression stats are being updated practically immediately -- and the integration process is as easy as with Google.

amznVibe

12:58 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Between DomainHop and these new contexual ads, seems like Kanoodle is trying to become a serious player. What I'd love to find now though is an easy, reputable, supplimental ad engine that uses images so I can put it on the same pages as Google AdSense (to keep within their TOS). Such an animal doesn't seem to exist?

eljefe3

5:27 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone ever put serious $$ into a click from kanoodle. I'm in some $5-$10 clicks from overture and adwords, but these same bids are way less than $1.00 on kanoodle, so unless they have an extremely high clickthrough, I can't personally see switching.

However this might be a good thing for those that aren't accepted into adsense or for whatever reason, have been kicked out of that network.

DamonHD

10:22 pm on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Paris,

Maybe I'm missing something but maybe I could serve a K ad as the alternate ad from the *first* AdSense block. Then, according to AdSense, that can only happen if there are no AdSense ads at all for that page right now.

Does that sound right to you? (Other opinions welcome too!)

I read the AS TOS as you can't have competing ads on the same page in any one viewing of that page, not "forever"...

Rgds

Damon

feiman

5:23 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've used most of the CPC programs that are out there (Overture, Google, Kanoodle, Findwhat, etc) and found that for whatever reason, Overture and Google's programs far outperform the second tier programs from a conversion perspective. I'll get a 3-5% conversion rate from a keyword on Overture and will get a rate of far less than 1% on the exact same word for the smaller programs.

It just seems that the quality of clicks is somehow better on the big programs.

Paris

12:33 am on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Damon, yes, in theory if that first AdSense block spits out a PSA if you are serving a 2nd or a 3rd AdSense block it should be a PSA.

However, I saw a page earlier today that had an AdSense PSA on top and regular AdSense-served ads in a second block.

I have a question of my own -- since I tried to put in the script as an alternate and AdSense said "nyet" (so I just went ahead and removed the AdSense code). Is there a way to put the code in? Google seems to want a simple URL and won't take the javascript from Kanoodle (I actually had this same problem trying to put a CJ.com alternate ad earlier).

killroy

1:24 am on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You have to make a small html file with teh CJ code or hte Kanoodle JS code, and then use that html file as your alternate ad url.

SN