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affiliate programs - ebooks or real products?

affiliate programs, ebooks and real products

         

tsinoy

6:58 am on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Howdy, a newbie here..

It's been 1 month since I started doing internet marketing, not very successful at it, am still learning the ropes. Just want a show of hands of what you guys prefer selling.

Ebooks(info products) or non-info Products(web hosting, phones, etc)? what's the thought process behind that valuable decision.

obtw, I find webmasterworld.com very informative. kudos to the knowledge sharing culture!

derekwong28

5:35 pm on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to Webmasterworld! I sell electronic products, which are quite easy to come by in Hong Kong. However it is very labor intensive and the margins are often low. Even now with my wife and 4 full-time employees, I am still not confident enough yet to quit my full-time job.

My first choice would have been affiliate marketing because it carries no inventory and can be done anywhere in the world. However, I felt at the time that it was difficult for people living outside the US to get information about market there to act as an affiliate effectively.

Now with my business established, I am going to try again through a different route. I am going to just create content sites and put adsense on it.

As far as eBooks are concerned, I feel that unless you are the original creator, it is very difficult to make good money. In the cases of selling services such as webhosting it is just too demanding, perhaps even more so than physical products.

tsinoy

12:45 am on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for your comments Derek. I guess for you at this point real products are more proven. Did I understand you correctly that you are not selling as an affiliate but as the merchant itself?

Is using adsense on a content site more effective in generating income compared to selling products itself? I went through the adsense forum and couldn't find any thing about good $$$, I'll try to dig even further later today.

Any other thoughts out there? in what's more effective? promoting ebooks or cj.com stuff? like sun glasses or cellphones?

sean

3:34 am on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The way I see it, the market for ebooks is tiny compared to the market for Stuff.

ska_demon

11:14 am on Sep 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I personally prefer to sell anything that hasn't been sold to death yet. It has been said over and over "find a niche that isn't competetive and corner it before everyone else does". So, this is what i try to do. My experience of e-books is thru clickbank I think. It wasn't very successful. My thoughts are that STUFF sells better.
Ska

tsinoy

12:44 am on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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sean and ska, thanks for your 2 cents.

looks like I'm getting a better idea of what people are selling through the affiliate programs concept.

After a month of doing this, its been a bit frustrating... I haven't sold a single ebook... so I stop doing that.... I think I tried 4 or 5 ebooks... but seems futile! :)

anyways... I've started on other stuff... had a few sales but still under water... looks like I still need to learn how to spot a niche product.

regards.

AthlonInside

4:32 pm on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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derekwong28,

what is the qualification of your full time employees? What you need them to do?

derekwong28

2:29 am on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We run a shop that sells electronic products overseas. My wife overseas the backend operation and used to be an interior designer with a Masters degree. We also have a web designer, a shipping clerk, and an office assistant working fulltime. All are in their early twenties and do not have university degrees.

We get around 20 orders a day at present and the amount of time involved in processing each order is really quite incredible. We have to check every order against fraud, verify that the customer have selected the correct options and that their shipping address is correct, print labels, pack the merchandise, fill out custom declaration forms and registration documents, affix postage, take the items to the post office, charge their credit cards, and send shipment notices.

The only good thing being a merchant is that you can earn a decent income almost straigtaway provided that your products sells. Whereas with affiliates, you have got to build it up gradually unless you use PPCs, but this is risky.

Regards

Derek

tsinoy

2:36 am on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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oh my goodness, that's a lot of work! :) but I guess the margin is attractive enough for you to be doing it.

sean

3:47 am on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hang in there, tsinoy. You gained one month's worth of valuable experience, even if it was finding out some things that did not work.

In the beginning, if the pure sales sites are not working, you might try an authorative content site. A little longer to start making money, but if you do it right, you will have a much easier time getting links, return visitors, etc.

Alternately, you could read up on the "ruthless PPC experiments" from Michael Anthony in this forum, so you do not accidentally build a content site only to find there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

AthlonInside

4:21 am on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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derek,

Thanks for you info. You earn my respect because your really start it up and you can work with people (employees).

For 2 years in affiliate marketing, I feel tired, and loneliness working alone. Humans are make to be a team player but affiliates are usually lone ranger.

rfung

7:45 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'd say sell stuff - ebooks are usually (to my perception) made by marketers trying to sell to other less knowledgeable marketers. Sometimes I think that all these pros selling ebooks are usually only pros because they can convince others trying to be pros. Some ebooks are blatantly written with the intent of plopping aff links to more affiliate marketing products and MLM schemes ("When you buy this ebook, you can change the tracking codes in it and sell it for extra multiple streams of revenue income!").

I confess that I bought a couple of ebooks (and returned them too) - although they have some valuable information, nothing beats coming to forums like these, posting your own questions at your own pace when you finally come to the obstacles you're facing at a particular time.