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Someone shoot me

I'm going to try a $100-1000 day thing from scratch..

         

shri

3:37 pm on Jul 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just wanted to let you folks know, I've officially lost it. If you don't see me at PubCon .. you know where and why I've been locked up. :)

My latest venture is in an oversaturated and competitive sector, in an area I'm passionate about, with a slick and neat CSS design and manually re-written content being added at the rate of 3 or 4 pages a day.

This is a simple test to see if someone with some basic skills like me can actually get into a competitive area and get an independant income stream going in the range of about $10-15K a month from this experiment. I'm going to give this one about 120 days to work out.

Oh yeah, and I lied about the "from scratch" thing, I've got a couple of hobby sites pointing at this one with PR5-6 inbounds.

Given that I don't visit any other SEO forums, be assured that everything going into these sites is from various threads on here. I've used these so far, to get the keywords and domains researched.

[webmasterworld.com...]
[webmasterworld.com...]

I'm not going to say if I followed everything or only bits and pieces.. its up to you to figure out what you want to do.

A couple of things that I have done, include navigation planning and setting up all the place holders and internal links. Have also done some very basic PR and link analysis on the top 3 results in Yahoo and Google for the top 20 keywords. Have not done any onpage stuff yet... all off page analysis.

Within a week I can report the site is being spidered by MSN, Google and Yahoo.

Next report in a week when the spidered pages start showing up well enough to start doing some analysis and adding some content and tweaking.

Now, if you don't see me at PubCon .. you know where and why I've been locked up. :)

ThomasB

6:59 pm on Aug 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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shri, why do you wait till the other 2 sites are out of the sandbox if you already have one out of the sandbox?

gopi

12:37 am on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> what's the lowest you can buy a pr7 site for

I once bought a hobby PR 7 geocities site for $100 ,i dont think anyone including me can beat that record now :)


Its not passing PR anymore :(

MrSpeed

12:25 pm on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Its not passing PR anymore :(

Really? When did that happen? That seems weird because there is no "whois" lookup for the owners of geocities sites. What do you think caused the PR to stop being passed?

I also have a general question. I went "hunting" yesterday for PR7 sites. They were far and few between in the topics I was looing through. What type of topics would there be some likely PR7 sites?

gopi

1:07 pm on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> When did that happen?

I believe maybe 3-4 months before , its showing as backlink but no PR passed! ...maybe i overdid outlinking from that site :)

>> What type of topics would there be some likely PR7 sites?

Non-commercial or hobby type ...

I beleive its difficult if not impossible to acquire any high PR sites cheap now , that too after adsense ...suddenly many webmasters with little clue in making money online began to generate decent revenue with adsense with little effort and so many refuse to sell or quote an unrealistic price!

derekwong28

2:28 pm on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Gopi,

I have got a feeling that the site you bought was not a true PR7 site, but one that had PR passed down by geocities. As far as I can remember, almost all geocities site start at PR7 but most lose it eventually. Sometimes this PR does work for new sites but it must remain hosted under the geocities domain.

A guy in another forum was asking $25000 for his PR7 site. This amount of money is only worthwhile to people who know how to make use of it. I would not sell my PR7 content site for even double that amount because I have so many uses for it at the moment.

For a start, it helps to maintain my two e-Commerce sites at PR6. Also, a link from its homepage will almost guarantee a new web page to be indexed by Google within 2 days. Also, it allowed us to steamroll over the competition for many common search terms.

This thread gives me an idea. I am going put as much content under the PR7 site as possible, and see how much monry I can make with adsense within 6 months.

Derek

gopi

2:54 pm on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> I have got a feeling that the site you bought was not a true PR7 site

Derek, i am a little exprienced to check things before :) ... This site got its PR 7 from many high PR backlinks(PR 7/8) including dmoz/yahoo ...Anyway as i said i bought it in 2002 before adsense came out....I dont think its easy anymore!

photon

8:54 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Care to add an update after another month?

disgust

10:36 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"I also have a general question. I went "hunting" yesterday for PR7 sites. They were far and few between in the topics I was looing through. What type of topics would there be some likely PR7 sites? "

try browsing directory.google.com. should speed things up.

killroy

11:00 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I reached about half your target in 4 month last year, except I really started from scratch with new domains, and did it by my lonely self. Problem is, since then I've pretty much platoed. Creating new sites and adding more pages and products, seems to simply keep up with losses at other ends... How can I BOTH add new stuff and keep the existing stuff productive? How can I ensure growth?

SN

mfishy

11:27 pm on Sep 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<<How can I ensure growth?>>

Automate and find employees. Not too many multi-million dollar companies with 1 person.

Just for aff stuff we have programmers, link developers, designers and server admin. We barely ever have to guide them and still operate at 90% margins :)

longen

3:16 am on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>we have programmers, link developers, designers and server admin

mfishy - i assume you employ those people, maintain an office, etc - or do you contract everything out?

mfishy

12:42 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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contract everything out - an office would require me to get dressed in the morning :)

HeyJim

1:28 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Mfishy, suddenly by comparison I feel very depressed sitting here in my office.
(Maybe if I took off my clothes...)

MrSpeed

3:37 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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contract everything out - an office would require me to get dressed in the morning :)

A little off topic but where does one go to find these contractors? Elance?

Do you test them out on unimportant sites to evaluate them?

djohnson

3:39 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Friends and people you meet and know online.

shri

2:41 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> an office would require me to get dressed in the morning

You know, after 6 months of lounging in my shorts @ home, I'm bored.

Just rented office space, a sales person and a writer and am going to take a stab at getting back to some sort of discipline.

One old site used in this experiment has been doing well. Averaging about $500/day with adsense and a couple of affiliate programs. Going to continue using it for more experiments.

The new domains still remain sandquarantinelagboxed.

gopi

1:01 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> Averaging about $500/day with adsense and a couple of affiliate programs

Not bad at all for an expirmental project ... Congrats!

jcoronella

1:45 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Good to hear of your success Shri! Beer is on you eh?

sandquarantinelagboxed

LOL! Brilliant.

mfishy

2:24 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to hear you are still sandlagboxed on the new sites shri. If it makes you feel any better, you are certainly not alone!

shri

3:56 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> Beer is on you eh?

As long as the nuts are on you. :)

AffiliateDreamer

4:33 am on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i guess this entire sandboxing issue is going to make older domain buying prices increase slightly huh?

AffiliateDreamer

5:59 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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any updates on this?

rfung

5:03 pm on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One old site used in this experiment has been doing well. Averaging about $500/day with adsense and a couple of affiliate programs. Going to continue using it for more experiments.

Cool deal. I'm doing 10% of what you bring..a long way to go.

I was curious - care to share the breakdown of adsense/affiliate income? 80-20?60-40?

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