Need sponsors for my lyrics website

[turbohost]

Hi,

I'm currently running a lyrics website with a fair amount of visitors (about 3.000 unique per day). I have added a popunder program to pay for the hosting of this site and it does the trick. I'm getting about 4 $ per day now. Are there some other ways I can get money from these visitors? I don't want them to get burried under a load of popup/unders and CPMfirms don't accept new applications most of the time nowadays. Some new ideas will be appreciated.

Philip

[Drastic]

The obvious one to me is to sell/promote cds that contain the songs you have lyrics for. Also other cds by the same artist, etc.

[PatrickDeese]

Adsense & Amazon (or B&N or CDNow)?

You'll have to drop the pop ads if you use Adsense though.

[SMXwebcrawler]

A pay for use section with news and freebies possibly could be a good idea.

[turbohost]

Thanks guys. These are interesting ideas. I added an Amazon cd section to my lyrics. If you select a lyric you will get all the cd's from that specific artist. I'll let you know if it makes me a buck.

Another interesting idea is Adsense. I'm currently running a popup proggram generating me about 4$ per day for 3.000 unique visitors. How much will Adsense generate me for this number of visitors?

[buckworks]

I'm curious ... how did you arrange to get copyright clearance to post lyrics on your site? What sort of royalties do you have to pay?

[PatrickDeese]

I make about $1 per day with about 800 visitors/day - but I have a niche info site that doesn't get a lot of advertising.

I would invest $28 by killing your popunders for a week and seeing what adsense gives you.

[turbohost]

Killed the popups ... and the site is running much smoother. (Anyone knows how it comes that with popups/unders the site freezes for a few seconds when the popup/under is loaded?). I also applied for the Adsense program.

Anyway, I also implemented the Amazon affiliate thing and I sold my first CD. Boy o boy, I got 11 cent for it :->

[Chndru]

I sold my first CD. Boy o boy, I got 11 cent for it :->

Kuddos..WTG :)

[PatrickDeese]

>> Anyway, I also implemented the Amazon affiliate thing and I sold my first CD. Boy o boy, I got 11 cent for it

Great now add a section so your visitors can contribute album reviews and then movie reviews and you'll be on your way.

[pleeker]

I'm curious ... how did you arrange to get copyright clearance to post lyrics on your site? What sort of royalties do you have to pay?

I was wondering the same thing.

I run a site devoted to a specific band, and we have lyrics there. The band knows about us and don't have a problem with the lyrics being there.

But about two years ago I got a nasty letter from an attorney in Europe representing the record label, announcing plans to sue for copyright infringement and demanding all sorts of data about site traffic (lots), revenue (none, thankfully), etc. Turns out I was able to use some contacts to get them off my back, because they were supposed to be going after the general lyrics sites (probably like the one being discussed here) that post copyrighted material from all kinds of artists.

Good luck, and be careful about creating a revenue stream from property you don't own.

[PatrickDeese]

>> Good luck, and be careful about creating a revenue stream from property you don't own.

how about if it was in an iFrame from hosted on a free server?
:D

[gbaker123]

I'm wondering about the copyright issues too. You're playing with fire if you are making money off the lyrics and you don't have copyright permission. I remember something about this not too long ago.

George

[div01]

You'll have to drop the pop ads if you use Adsense though.

Patrick,

I am going to check the ToS...but are you sure about this?

[abbeyvet]

You'll have to drop the pop ads if you use Adsense though.

I don't think it is, according to my reading of it.

There are two mentions of pop-ups in the policies page:

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Ads must not be displayed on any pop-ups, pop-unders, ......

Site may not include: ...
Pop-ups that interfere with site navigation or are for downloads
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Neither would seem to exclude popups entirely.

I don't use them anyway, so it does not affect me.