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Overture Scraper sites?

Are these OK?

         

MrWumpus

6:01 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I stumbled upon several related sites that use very good domain names, but appear to be only search engines for showing Overture ads. They offer no actual content beyond that. One of these sites is PR7 and even though it claims to be about security, you can search it and return Overture ads about shoes, for example. Is this legit?

I'm fairly new to web publishing and find this confusing. My guess is that these sites are making enormous amounts of money based on the high-profile domain names and the high PR, and I am assuming they are also perfectly legal or otherwise they'd be shut down since they are so obvious.

I see a lot of heat about Adsense scrapers but not Overture. Aren't sites like this doing about the same thing? If people just wanted to search Overture ads why doesn't Overture simply create sites like this themselves?

Thanks for any explanations.

Eltiti

12:19 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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These are probably "parked" domains that have an agreement with Overture to exploit any type-in traffic they get.

If that's indeed the case, they would not be considered "scrapers", and they would be legitimate.

MrWumpus

5:23 pm on Oct 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Someone recently made the claim that such sites made them $50k a day(!), or 18 million a year. I suppose that is possible if you have hundreds of good domain names using these overture feed search scripts.

If such success is possible and not considered scraping, it makes me wonder why the mantra of the day remains "content, content, content"?

beren

4:26 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would not consider these scraper sites.

They are worse than scrapers. Scrapers don't directly affect advertiser costs. They take up space on the SERPs, but they only get money from content network ads, which advertisers can opt out of.

These parked domains list only Overture ads. Advertisers cannot opt out of them. And for some of us, they make up a major fraction of the total Overture cost.

The single biggest complaint I have about Yahoo Search Marketing is the existence of these sites.

JohnCanyon

4:42 pm on Oct 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This is also our biggest complaint about overtures system.

See my post here:
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dj_webm

3:01 pm on Oct 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo claims they are 'partners sites'....

What a ***&£$"!"*&*** lie, its a 'secret' way how to make thousands and thousands a day for the 'well connected people' - and thats all.

If its true about partners - then is OK, if you have a 'good' and busy domain name, you could become a 'partner' legit way and sell overture links - but we're talking about sites which has even dogy domain names and no content at all - just those links to make a huge profit for "someone"... Does yahoo didnt have normal TOS or other stops to prevent that? I think yahoo does, but simply not interested... they take their cut from advertisers money and close big Yah$$ eyes...

IMHO :)

PS everyone can check with overture userbidtool that "those" websites display links to advertisers who pays most... seen it from $1 to $50 per click - nice :) so you can advertise that crappy site on adsence or back on overture for a less - and money rolling in :)

fiu88

4:19 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I e-mailed yahoo about this crap a few weeks ago... Inotice one the higher ranked ppc ads in Google was nothing but a scraper site feeding Overture ppc ads!

They told me I should complain to google?

Sometimes you just wish you could reach through the phone and choke someone.... It was like a who's on first whats on 2nd conversation...

---Hello? You have a scraper site feeding my ppc ad on google....Is this what you consider a partner?

Yahoo-- Hmm , I see sir...have you tried contacting google to complain about the scraper site?

Me--I think you misunderstood...You are the problem...because you "partner" with scraper sites..google is just feeding a ppc ad...
I never opted into having my ppc budget blown on a scraper site...

Yahoo-- I understand, we have very high standards in our partner network, perhaps you should try contactimg Google...

Tropical Island

9:33 am on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We spend a short time every few days with the Google AdSense preview tool to blacklist these sites from our AdSense program.

In our niche we find about 1 per week.

growingdigital

2:20 am on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Keep in mind these sites are often not part of Yahoo Content Match, they are actual distribution partners like MSN, and CNN (e.g. Sponsored Search Partners)..... Meaning you can't turn it off in your account. PM me if you want some examples. I have been complaining to Yahoo about this for some time, but they don't seem to care.

fiu88

5:30 am on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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growingdigital...

My complaints fellon deaf ears,,,I later found out that the scraper site scrapes for other KW's ibn other industures ( furniture) besides my automotive brand name...Interesting....I think its just Y taking advantage of their higher ppc cost and boning the advertisers any way they can...