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PPC keyword phrases listing or directory anywhere?

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brain

5:43 pm on Sep 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know of an online sight which lists a whole directory of PPC keyword phrases that are being used on the internet?

I've visited Wordtracker already and found it sort of useful. However, you have to enter the keyword phrases that your interested in first. I'm looking for someplace that can list hundreds of keyword phrases being used and how many times they were used in the past.

Anyone know of any resources like this? Also, I remember when Overture used to have a list of the most used keyword phrases but I havent been able to get them to give me the location of this again. Does anyone know what the url is?

Thanks,

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[edited by: Mike_Mackin at 5:47 pm (utc) on Sep. 17, 2002]

Birdman

6:59 pm on Sep 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WW, brain. Wordtracker will email you a list of the top 300 searches every week. I think you get on thier email list when you use the free online tool. They might even have that list available on thier site.

Here is the url to Overtures kw suggestion tool:
[inventory.overture.com...]

brain

7:37 pm on Sep 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks.

Yeah, I've already used these tools. Those three hundred are ok, but if you try to bid on them you can expect to pay top dollar to be listed. And unless you do a search by hand and enter each keyword phrase your interested in by hand...you won't get a multiple amount of variations. Thats what I'm looking for.

Perhaps some sort of keyword scramble what will give real life keyword variations. Know of anything like this?

Ralph

hannamyluv

8:11 pm on Sep 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you use wordtracker correctly it can lead you to the variations. I use it for that all the time. I enter a keyword that I know we want to use and wordtracker gives me a list of words related to that word and I can dig in on them to find more.

You wouldn't want an all inclusive list anyway. Being keyword specific and tightly related to what you sell will profit you better in the long run. High traffic on CPCs does not always translate to sales. You can get a "million" searches for bikes and "500,000" in clicks for bikes but if you are selling motorbikes and the clickers are looking for pedal bikes, you just lost a whole lot of money. You are really, really better of trying to attract the traffic that is looking for motorbikes, which may only have 100 searches and 50 clicks but they will buy what you sell.

And for the record, all numbers here are made up. Just so I don't get a correction later :)

Birdman

12:57 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Overture's tool will also give related phrases. Just start with a very broad range single keyword and you will get a huge list of phrases. Then you can dig even further by clicking the phrases in that list.

Sorry brain, that is all I know of.

payperclickanalyst

1:35 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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By Friday ePilot (.com) is suppose to release
a new "Keyword Suggestion Tool."

From my correspondence w/ them...

"By this Friday we should have released our
new 'Keyword Suggestion Tool' for advertisers.
Unlike other ppcs, our tool doesn't just
provide suggestions that are merely extensions
of the root word, but it contains a related
list of keywords selected by our comparative
database. Advertisers will be able to refine
the tool for higher relevancy (very specific
related terms) or for a greater number of
words (a little bit broader list of effective
keywords)"

bigjohnt

4:38 pm on Sep 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Warning: OV's suggestion tool is now displaying phrases in their alphabetical order, rendering it even more useless in predicting phrase searches. for example: I searched for "credit counseling service", and got the phrase:
"angeles consumer counseling credit los service"

Do you think a user would actually have typed in
"los angeles consumer credit counseling service"?
or even perhaps "consumer credit counseling service los angeles"?

OV tool shows no searches for either of those phrases, but they claim there WERE 38 searches for "angeles consumer counseling credit los service"

Marvelous "enhancement" OV folks. Just marvelous.

Where's my credit card, so I can buy more of this "soon to be junk" traffic.

Robert Charlton

6:03 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>Warning: OV's suggestion tool is now displaying phrases in their alphabetical order<<

bigjohnt - Thanks for this note. It didn't register right away what I was seeing, but it certainly was looking peculiar. I'm going to take the liberty of posting this as well in the "Keyword Discussion" forum, as I think it's of general interest.

They seem to depart from alphabetical order only occasionally, in some commonly used phrases (but not "los angeles" apparently). You're right; this is next to useless. I hope there's enough feedback to get them to change back. I suppose they'd pay more attention to large customers, so let them hear from you if you have a relationship with them.

Robert Charlton

8:12 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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PS: This alphabetization seems to be occurring on obviously machine generated searches. Some further discussion on this at:

[webmasterworld.com...]

mundonet

9:51 am on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tried brain's "online sight" with Overture's suggestion tool: No suggestions for online sight. :)

brain

3:16 pm on Sep 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That was definitely a typo. Ref: Online Site
However, I suppose you discovered a keyword alternative.

I've found three "online web site" search engine keyword suggestion tools so far and quickly added them to my site's directory. Besides overture, espotting, brainfox and google does anyone know of others and how to get to their url?

mundonet

6:04 am on Sep 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No offense intended brain.:) Typos are an important part of our referrals. We sprinkle them in our pages for ranking reasons beside all the ones (mucho) we make involontairement parce que nous écrivons souvent dans une autre langue que la nôtre!

We also bid on them for pennies & nickels which our competitors do not and it brings a steady stream of customers with an excellent conversion rate. Guess it's because they do not find any other relevant results.

But tell me: you said you found three search engine keyword suggestion tools and then you name 4: "overture, espotting, brainfox and google". An other typo? :)

brain

3:10 pm on Sep 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No offense taken. Good eye!