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When is BestBBS going to be released?

         

PFOnline

1:00 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll be first in line. Any scheduled date for release?

PFOnline

1:01 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I mostly like BestBBS and would make the switch from Ikonboard because each post is created as a (search engine spiderable, and google friendly) HTML file!

Bobby_Davro

3:44 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am waiting, credit card in hand.... do we have any idea of price as well?

The search engine friendly nature of the system is my main attraction as well. If it doesn't get released soon, I am going to have to use another BBS; are there any others that create HTML files?

Brett_Tabke

4:30 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>time

Feb 1 2003. ;-) Seriously, it was to be a done deal by now - then we slowly woke up to running the hottest site on the net and had to focus on priorities. Not sure of a time frame at this point.

>price

$10 more expensive than anything else out there. It has a pretty impressive unique selling point in that it runs the largest forum on the internet today.

Clark

6:51 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Coool...but is it larger than straightdope?

Bobby_Davro

7:18 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Do you really mean $10 more than anything else?

$229 for UBB.threads
$99 for Invision Power Board
$160 for VBulletin
$4995 for WebBoard 6.1 Premium
$1999 for IdealBB

Does this mean that we will be looking at $5000+? <Quietly slips the credit card back into his pocket...>

How about providing a support-free version for those of us who can probably cope with running and fixing it ourselves? Cheapskate, I know, but $5000 just isn't going to be feasible for the vast majority of people interested in the board.

Your USP of being the "biggest" board will carry weight with the corporations, but your average Joe Webmaster doesn't need that much power.

Anyway, I hope that you price it within the reach of the rest of us ;-)

werty

4:32 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are you still looking for beta testers Brett?

I signed up a while ago and got no new info on it. But like you said you have been busy with this site...and I can see why.

I have a webserver that is just waiting to run a good message board...

Marketing Guy

4:35 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How about donating a copy to free sites that are good causes? ;)

Scott

lazerzubb

4:46 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Bobby_Davro, i have no idea, and it's only IMHO, but setting a high price is sometimes a good thing.

Setting a price of 29$ would open up to a lot of risks, anyone would be able to buy it without a problem, and it would be very widespread etc, the risk would be that the source code contain security holes that would be used for a "non-good" reason, and since this is a highly popular board, it may cause a lot of problems (Not sure there are security holes, i think Brett has found most of them, but there is always human flaws, even though it might not be Brett's fault (probably isn't either)).
(remember i really don't have a clue about how the software works, and the enourmous amount of code it contains)

I think it's similar with the Google Search appliance, it's not mega expensive, but it's expensive enought that no one would buy it just to have a play with it.
And remember the amount of time it has taken to develop this board, the enourmous amount of programming hours, h*ll if it was me i would set a higher price than any of the boards you mention.
And non of those boards had similar tools that this board have (not from what i understood anyway)
(remember again this is IMO only).

Bobby_Davro

6:03 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I could cope with it costing up to $200 perhaps, but once it starts breaching the several hundred dollars level, it will also lose a lot of sales, which is a shame. Obviously, as has been pointed out, less sales, but at a higher price, is much easier on the support personnel.

On the other hand though, it might be nice for them to make it more wide spread... letting people take advantage of what is obviously a very nice bit of coding.

Brett_Tabke

7:43 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the list Bobby. Those higher priced ones are not just the software. They are soft licensing and service agreements. In the range of those lower to midlevel stand alone ones was our target ($200-$500 depending on options).

>donating a copy to free sites that are good causes?

A discount policy for nonprofs is certainly on the table. However, it's not the software alone that would be purchase - it's the inevitable support requirements that go with it hand and hand.

>Straighdope

Ya think? [alexa.com]

lazerzubb

7:45 pm on Mar 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a very healthy price.

Bobby_Davro

12:24 am on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Phew...The site that I am setting up is a non-profit (a party political news/discussion site), but I believe in paying my way. $200 would seem a reasonable price (hint), but $500 might be pushing it.

Are you selling the software on a license basis (i.e. per site) or for the software package (unlimited sites)?

daamsie

12:09 am on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)



You surely don't really rely on the alexa rankings though Brett? Due to the audience and topics discussed here you would expect that alexa rankings for WW are about 10 times any other site just because a higher percentage of visitors here are likely to have the toolbar installed! I'm not saying you're not larger than straightdope, but alexa rankings provide no proof.

that's the only reason I installed alexa - and saw my alexa rankings boost from 'no data' to in the top 100000

Bobby_Davro

3:10 pm on Mar 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Do we have a likely release date on BestBBS? I don't think that any rough dates were given...?

It is almost 2 months after the Feb 1st date, and some of us are keen to get our grubby little mits on a copy :)

Brett_Tabke

5:41 pm on Mar 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>likely release date

Jan 1, 2003.

Then our traffic doubled.
[webmasterworld.com...]

Then our traffic doubled.
[webmasterworld.com...]

And suddenly, instead of 6 hrs a day of light work around here, I had 14 heavy but fun ones. Most of which, I credit to the software.

We'll get there. May-Sept time frame.

Bobby_Davro

7:50 pm on Mar 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK, thanks.

EliteWeb

11:56 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Will BestBBS have switchover scripts and possibilities. Switch to BestBBS from these most popular boards? ;) Ill be a beta tester for the switching scripts (:~

Brett_Tabke

10:34 am on Apr 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Although conversion scripts are a serious possiblity, I wonder about their utility. One of the main usp's of the software is the quality of discussions it supports. That is due to the look & feel. To convert other board threads, would be to invite the same branding - eg: it brings their problems with them (I know these things ;-)

Marcia

10:32 pm on Apr 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has there been any consideration as to whether there will be portal-like features available as add-ons eventually?

BGumble

7:11 am on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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These are dynamic thread pages aren't they?

While they say .htm, the threads actually are database driven on the fly, right? Otherwise how could posts be marked new or not?

Brett_Tabke

1:15 pm on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There is a plugin API Marcia - anything is possible. Hopefully, tech savvy webmasters will write their own plugins for distribution ontop of the api.

>dynamic vs static

Right. There is the option to do pure dynamic and an option to do it via SSI (as opposed to .htaccess).

Bobby_Davro

2:56 pm on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Another month on; is there light at the end of the BestBBS tunnel?

Should I be checking the site every day in anticipation of its imminent release?

PFOnline

9:48 pm on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hope avatars are an option!

The people on my current forum (ikonboard) love avatars, hehe.