Fascinating example of PR0

Foo thread on WebMasterWorld has whited Toobar PR

[Robert Charlton]

Occasionally, I'll see a whited out Toolbar PR indicator in a place where I know it doesn't belong. I saw one recently on Amazon, but couldn't reproduce how I got there. I'm seeing one right now on "The bear is still alive and well on Wall Street" thread on Foo via this url:

[webmasterworld.com...]

The interesting thing is if I get there via this next url, the page shows a PR of 5.

[webmasterworld.com...]

This may be a fragile situation... I'm not sure how long it will last. The link may end up changing the Page Rank. Brett, anything peculiar going on with this link that might tell us something?

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 4:23 am (utc) on Sep. 4, 2002]

[Hemsell]

I get same results.

Todd

[shelleycat]

Since the thread is new then it won't yet be indexed by Google. So isn't the PR showing in the toolbar only an estimate anyway?

[bobriggs]

Hmm, I normally see gray results for such a circumstance.

[shelleycat]

Sometimes a new page will give me grey and sometimes it will give me a PR reading - including brand new pages I just created. I've seen other posts in here about estimated PR so I assume it's not just me. It is odd that this one thread estimates at zero where others estimate higher but it's not a "real" PR at least.

[Robert Charlton]

I forgot to mention that I checked some other new threads on Foo, and they're all Page Rank 5. What makes this one different?

[bobriggs]

WebmasterWorld about to get hit with pr0 penalty? ;)

google needing dow up before they announce ipo? ;)

[bobriggs]

page 2 is showing pr0 also on my toolbar.

this one:
[webmasterworld.com...]

excuse me, page two is:
[webmasterworld.com...]

I copied the first post url.

[Robert Charlton]

>>WebmasterWorld about to get hit with pr0 penalty?<<

;) No, even in fun, I don't want to start that kind of murmuring at all. I'm simply looking at this to see if we can figure out what's going on... it might provide a helpful clue. It's particularly curious, because the second url to the same thread doesn't give the whited out Toolbar.

With all this in mind, I hesitate to post this next url, but I just discovered another one... on an older thread. I don't think these are common... At least, I haven't seen them here before.

[webmasterworld.com...]

[bobriggs]

It is curious. Has anyone checked to make sure that there's not a second redirect going on?

The only thing in common between the two threads is that the same url has two names, AND the thread is split into two pieces.

[Robert Charlton]

bobriggs - Your page two is showing PR0 on my system too...

[webmasterworld.com...]

But if you break your thread pages differently, as I do... my page two shows a PR of 5.

[webmasterworld.com...]

My guess is that we can waste a lot of resources on the board posting examples of PR0 that we're going to find, and we should probably hold off on these. I've stickied Brett asking for his thoughts...

[Brett_Tabke]

There is some form of a limit as to how many pages Google is willing to index on large sites. Not uncommon. I've seen a trend for several years with unwelcome referrals to stray topics in Foo. Those don't benefit us, Google surfers, or Foo. So, it got a no index tag and robots.txt block recently in that forum.

[brotherhood of LAN]

I've noticed it too.

Much to do with time I guess. If it's a good thread, it'll be referenced in the board a few times.

I guess its only the ones with external links pointing in that preserve any sort of PR.

Otherwise when they drop of the active/forum lists no doubt G will see them as hard to find....